The Garand and getting screwed

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Perplexed

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SME stands for subject matter expert. A.K.A. "Perplexed"

Ah, thanks for the edification. And I wouldn't consider myself an expert - merely "somewhat informed" :wink2:


There's also the CMP Auctions for collectors and those who can afford the freight.

Emphasis mine. Some - no, many - of the final bids are ludicrous!
 

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And the Garand has ben tested and safe to fire, one knows the muzzle reading, you can shoot the Garand a couple of years and sell it on Gunbroker still at a profit if you want. However, I'd buy soon, they supply or backlog of orders at CMP looks grim. It take about 3-4 months at present to receive a Garand. I [placed an order on 23 Jul and it isn't here yet-but soon.
 

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Not that it needs repeating again, but CMP is the answer.

Unless there is some compelling life reason why you cannot/will not fill the requirements to purchase from the CMP, that is.
 

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That's true if you're just looking for a good shooter (like the OP) and don't care if it's a mixmaster. If you want an all-correct WW2 SA or WRA M1, then the open market is the only way to go. Even then, there are still sellers out there who just want to pass along a nice rifle without taking the buyer to the cleaners. Not many, but they're out there if you're willing to be patient... or have connections.

I would like a matching rifle that is still a good shooter. Wouldn't that hold it's value better?
 

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I would like a matching rifle that is still a good shooter. Wouldn't that hold it's value better?

First, a M1 Garand cannot be "matching" as there's no such creature. It can, however, be "all original" but that would be hideously expensive and probably not one you'd want to take shooting for fear of dinging it up or breaking something (like an uncut op rod). You can make a M1 "all correct" meaning the various parts are correct, if not original, for the receiver's DOB; such a rifle would hold its value well, especially if someone else went to the expense of correcting the rifle. However, you'd make more money parting out such a rifle if it was not "all original" to begin with. At any rate, a shooter usually implies a mixmaster that you can take to the range and put hundreds of rounds through it without significantly hurting the rifle's value, as you can replace any parts that break with relatively inexpensive, if incorrect parts, while an all-correct rifle is more of an investment - and not a great one at that - requiring more cost to maintain if used as a shooter. I see the question asked all the time as to what makes a good shooter, and the consensus is to get a nice mixmaster and put the difference in dollars between that and a collector rifle into ammo for range sessions.

Bottom line, a M1 Garand is not going to lose value unless you break something or put significant wear on the barrel. Given that you want to use it as a shooter, a mixmaster would be the better choice, financially speaking.
 

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Well the Garand is on hold for now, the tax man cometh and can't get out of that.

Just be aware the the CMP Garands are running out and from what I have been told are probably around 12-18 months from being gone at current sales rates. Also, the current wait on the CMP Garands is 4+ months after sending paperwork, though some of the Special grades can be had with a slightly lower wait.
 

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First, a M1 Garand cannot be "matching" as there's no such creature. It can, however, be "all original" but that would be hideously expensive and probably not one you'd want to take shooting for fear of dinging it up or breaking something (like an uncut op rod). You can make a M1 "all correct" meaning the various parts are correct, if not original, for the receiver's DOB; such a rifle would hold its value well, especially if someone else went to the expense of correcting the rifle. However, you'd make more money parting out such a rifle if it was not "all original" to begin with. At any rate, a shooter usually implies a mixmaster that you can take to the range and put hundreds of rounds through it without significantly hurting the rifle's value, as you can replace any parts that break with relatively inexpensive, if incorrect parts, while an all-correct rifle is more of an investment - and not a great one at that - requiring more cost to maintain if used as a shooter. I see the question asked all the time as to what makes a good shooter, and the consensus is to get a nice mixmaster and put the difference in dollars between that and a collector rifle into ammo for range sessions.

Bottom line, a M1 Garand is not going to lose value unless you break something or put significant wear on the barrel. Given that you want to use it as a shooter, a mixmaster would be the better choice, financially speaking.

This. I briefly toyed with the idea of spending the time and effort to make my '55 HRA a "correct grade", but decided not to. It's a great shooter just as it is and to the casual Garand fan, it's good enough. :)
 

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