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Anyone ever loaded these in 9mm? Very long bullet. I’m wanting to use Tite-Group, manufacturer only has data for Lovex Ultimate
 

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View attachment 198099 Anyone ever loaded these in 9mm? Very long bullet. I’m wanting to use Tite-Group, manufacturer only has data for Lovex Ultimate

Are you trying to load them for a self-defense round? If so, I would not use TiteGroup. IMO, TightGroup is too fast a powder to bring it to SD velocities. It starts having issues with a 124g bullet around 1100fps. There are several options that will easily exceed 1200fps without severe over pressure problems.


Are they solid Copper? If so, they will likely be longer to make the same weight, further reducing the volume for the powder charge. Another potential issue with TG.

I believe N350, 3N37, maybe 3N38 would be a better choice. Look at a powder burn rate chart to get an idea.
 

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Probably whatever powder you have that works in a 9.

Starting Load
Maximum Loads

Manufacturer
Powder
Bullet Diam. C.O.L
Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure
Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure

Hodgdon CFE Pistol Buy Now 0.356" 1.150"
4.9 1,006 27,300 PSI
5.5 1,120 33,800 PSI

Winchester 231 Buy Now 0.356" 1.150"
3.9 920 27,400 PSI
4.4 1,037 31,900 PSI

Hodgdon Longshot Buy Now 0.356" 1.150"
4.8 958 23,000 PSI
5.8 1,135 32,300 PSI

Hodgdon Clays Buy Now 0.356" 1.150"
2.7 791 27,900 PSI
3.0 857 31,200 PSI

Hodgdon 800-X Buy Now 0.356" 1.150"
5.2 1,060 27,700 PSI
5.7 1,114 30,400 PSI

Hodgdon Titewad Buy Now 0.356" 1.150"
2.9 847 28,700 PSI
3.4 942 32,200 PSI

Hodgdon HP-38 Buy Now 0.356" 1.150"
3.9 920 27,400 PSI
4.4 1,037 31,900 PSI

Winchester 572 Buy Now 0.355" 1.150"
5.3 1,131 27,200 PSI
5.8 1,212 32,600 PSI

Hodgdon 700-X Buy Now 0.356" 1.150"
3.7 894 24,700 PSI
4.2 1,068 33,400 PSI

Hodgdon Universal Buy Now 0.356" 1.150"
3.8 904 26,300 PSI
4.4 1,045 33,500 PSI

IMR IMR Target Buy Now 0.356" 1.150"
4.1 1,017 29,000 PSI
4.5 1,109 32,900 PSI

Winchester AutoComp Buy Now 0.356" 1.150"
4.8 1,020 28,400 PSI
5.4 1,120 32,900 PSI

Hodgdon Titegroup Buy Now 0.356" 1.150"
3.6 957 27,700 PSI
4.1 1,057 32,700 PSI


I copy and pasted that from here.
https://shop.hodgdon.com/reloading-data-center

I shot some home made loads from a 9 the other day using Blue Dot powder ..some 150 gr cast powder coated lead.
That makes for a cheap load.
Was quite pleasant to shoot also.
 

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Right now? Whatever you can get.

231 was always my go to for 9mm, but with shortages, I picked up some HP-38. Very impressed with it and it may be my standard for 9mm going forward.

Current Win 231 and HP38 are the same powder with only a different label. 20 years ago, that may not have been the case. Same with Win 296 and H110.
 

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