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Michael Brown
It is a "read more, post less" type of forum as most of the questions have been asked.
Introduce yourself and then get to reading.
Michael Brown
How does one get approved if you can't register? I'm interested in reading that forum as well.
Thanks!
You register the same way but it takes a while and you have to be approved.
I think it just gives you that message until you're approved.
Michael Brown
MitchShrader wrote:
there are folks who take the classes, who won't pull the trigger in a real incident. they may even THINK they're trained...
i think that's a topic of a recent thread, hesitating in a real confrontation..
and we Are in the same book here, i don't want to seem to argue when i have no disagreement with your position.
but i notice a default presumption that willingness and committment exist. they don't always.
how many instructors actually turn down students?
How many OUGHT to turn down (some) students?
nope. when you get to the point of presumption, it's just another vacuum cleaner sales pitch.
no thanks, i ain't partaking of any today, might try my neighbor. i'm sure it's a very nice vacuum cleaner but your self interest is showing..
and it goes right along with CCW ain't a defense of the 2nd amendment.
it's permission from strangers to do things that make sense to start with, and they make JUST as much sense to do em without the paperwork.
An untrained citizen beats nothing, they MIGHT win.
A Whole bunch of people bet worse odds daily, keeping the lights turned on in Vegas.
If gun trainers would go listen to insurance salesmen sales pitches and delete all the stuff that sounded like that.. they'd be better off for it. IMO.
For anyone who "has seen the elephant" it's almost imposable to say what one is willing to do or not. I say it's more a result of chance than training.
While I would prefer the benefit of first class training, I would more rather have a shotgun.
there are folks who take the classes, who won't pull the trigger in a real incident. they may even THINK they're trained...
i think that's a topic of a recent thread, hesitating in a real confrontation..
and we Are in the same book here, i don't want to seem to argue when i have no disagreement with your position.
but i notice a default presumption that willingness and committment exist. they don't always.
how many instructors actually turn down students?
How many OUGHT to turn down (some) students?
nope. when you get to the point of presumption, it's just another vacuum cleaner sales pitch.
no thanks, i ain't partaking of any today, might try my neighbor. i'm sure it's a very nice vacuum cleaner but your self interest is showing..
and it goes right along with CCW ain't a defense of the 2nd amendment.
it's permission from strangers to do things that make sense to start with, and they make JUST as much sense to do em without the paperwork.
An untrained citizen beats nothing, they MIGHT win.
A Whole bunch of people bet worse odds daily, keeping the lights turned on in Vegas.
If gun trainers would go listen to insurance salesmen sales pitches and delete all the stuff that sounded like that.. they'd be better off for it. IMO.
For anyone who "has seen the elephant" it's almost imposable to say what one is willing to do or not. I say it's more a result of chance than training.
While I would prefer the benefit of first class training, I would more rather have a shotgun.
Exactly what is more a result of chance than training?
chance
noun
a: something that happens unpredictably without discernible human intention or observable cause
b: the assumed impersonal purposeless determiner of unaccountable happenings
c: the fortuitous or incalculable element in existence
d: the possibility of a particular outcome in an uncertain situation
noun
a: something that happens unpredictably without discernible human intention or observable cause
b: the assumed impersonal purposeless determiner of unaccountable happenings
c: the fortuitous or incalculable element in existence
d: the possibility of a particular outcome in an uncertain situation
Its not difficult; a specific, identifiable, expected, usual and intended event which occurs in a particular time and place, without ambiguity or uncertainty can be relied upon to produce a perfectly logical conditioned response.
Rarely ever happens.
I stand by my original statement: it's almost imposable to say what one is willing to do or not. I say it's more a result of chance than training.
That is my opinion, you are entitled to yours
Good Day
Rarely ever happens.
I stand by my original statement: it's almost imposable to say what one is willing to do or not. I say it's more a result of chance than training.
That is my opinion, you are entitled to yours
Good Day
