Soldier's selfie sparks outrage

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Bluewing

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1. young and STILL stupid. 2. extra weekend duty at one of the memorial cemetarys. 3. she will see first hand why the flag is held so dear.

(oh yeah, the "tongue lashing" part, why if i was just 35 years younger.................)
 

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Avoiding it isnt uncommon, but not showing your respect when your caught outside or in your car is. She should have just sat in her car in a military posture for the 30 seconds it takes to go through colors. Its not hard.
 

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Agreed. Even though I was once accused of killing flies with a shotgun when it came to discipline...I would actually be recommending a Letter of Reprimand and the establishment of an Unfavorable Information File.

Harsh enough to get her attention and the UIF sticks around in her file long enough to establish a pattern of behavior if she doesn't turn the ship around. If she gets the message, the LOR and UIF can go away.....whereas most Art 15s can be a permanent stain (never offer an Art 15 for something you aren't prepared to go to a Courts Martial with, right?).

Even though what she did was pretty disgusting, what you recommend above should be punishment enough with possibly a tour on "flag duty" for a period of weeks. Your statement of Art15 is spot on, as ALL troops have the ability to request a court martial instead of Article 15. Can be quite embarrasing to a commander trying to ram through an Article 15 for a very minor incident when his troop requests a court martial and JAG does the review on it.

Ask me how I know THAT one. Two years as a company legal clerk in the ARmy in Germany 1975-1977. Typed up a lot of Article 15s on old underwood Manual typewriter..
 

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Because, like a lot of professions (Blue Welfare etc...), there is an entire class of people who join/serve completely for the pay, benefits, and status that come with the job.

They don't get "it", they never will, and no amount of command delivered discipline will change their souls. F$ck them all.



Sorry, but you are wrong. I used to plow through the crowd of morons who would stand inside the door waiting for retreat to finish, just so I could have the opportunity to render the hand salute. Many of my fellow Airmen would do the same. When I became an NCO, I would drag those slobs outside with me. So not every SSAM has done it.....


I've seen that first hand. Perks of being the CYN OVERLORD.
 

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Avoiding it isnt uncommon, but not showing your respect when your caught outside or in your car is. She should have just sat in her car in a military posture for the 30 seconds it takes to go through colors. Its not hard.

On every army base I was on you had to get out of your car
 

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