Why would one want to move the garden to the water when my home occupies high ground, and the garden would be 1/3 miles away?
The garden would not be in an area to prevent looting.
Why would one want to move the garden to the water when my home occupies high ground, and the garden would be 1/3 miles away?
The garden would not be in an area to prevent looting.
I would use a wind powered system of dipping buckets (think about pint size containers) to lift the water and dump it into a holding tank with pvc piping to flow to my location. I'd use a car fan as the basis for my wind turbine, and I do have an engine driven welder available for fab.
Thanks Josh. This thread was exactly what I hoped for. Lots of thoughtful input. The water hammer pump is very cool, I had never seen that before! I like the outside of the box thinking of moving the garden. i did think along the lines of what Dennis was talking about though with the ability to defend it if needed. What I came up with was a woodgas powered engine and using the water pump on the smallest engine I could find. The water flowing in is plenty cool to keep the engine at proper temp and the output could be fed to the garden. The solar and wind power options and using the fuel pump are also great idea (didn't think of salvaging a fuel pump). One could salvage solar panels off of roadway signs/ect that use them.
Great dialog I hope continues. Maybe some build threads could come from these ideas (I'm working out how to put together the water pump using the creek in the middle of my property). Next card coming soon!
Great dialog I hope continues. Maybe some build threads could come from these ideas (I'm working out how to put together the water pump using the creek in the middle of my property). Next card coming soon!
I had another idea at work yesterday.
It involved use of 12v pumps either fuel pumps or a bilge pump out of a boat (likely multiple if much of elevation change).
These may need to be used in series like pumping stations if needing to go up a decent hill (lack of head pressure).
Power would be from batteries. From cars likely but if it was truly a shtf type deal I could see myself liberating several of the small solar panels used on flow meters and instruments in the oil and gas field. I probably have a 1/2 dozen within a 10 minute walk of my house and pass over 150 on way to work.
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It involved use of 12v pumps either fuel pumps or a bilge pump out of a boat (likely multiple if much of elevation change).
These may need to be used in series like pumping stations if needing to go up a decent hill (lack of head pressure).
Power would be from batteries. From cars likely but if it was truly a shtf type deal I could see myself liberating several of the small solar panels used on flow meters and instruments in the oil and gas field. I probably have a 1/2 dozen within a 10 minute walk of my house and pass over 150 on way to work.
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But giving up defensive high ground to move a garden? Makes sense for the garden, but not defense of the homestead. Defensively, you never give up high ground.
A remote garden would be open to looters was my point. Gardens for the most part can only be grown in warmer temps, with a few minor exceptions.
I just watched a documentary on remote China where folks still live in an area so mountainous, that they have to move around the village on ancient zip lines, thousands of years old, and zip line to low areas where they take their wares to market. On their return they carry water on their backs.
Water collection by use of tarps, cisterns, etc would be the method for retaining and collecting water on high ground.
A simple rotary gear set used for century's powered by animals or humans to run a conveyor/bucket system might be an answer, until it was sabotaged.
Wells on the high ground are not an option.
Water storage systems. Unused swimming pools?
Wells on the high ground are not an option.
Water storage systems. Unused swimming pools?
assuming your ground is level and your not on a hill, the pump idea is a good one, Water collection in some kind of sistern with a gravity fed slow drip irrigation system.
I would also maybe work on digging a trench to the stream from your garden if the terrain is right for that. digging a small trench a few feet a day would not kill you with labor. If the water was low and didn't flow that great consider laying some type of wicking material and build raised beds plant as much as possible in as little space possible so you are not having to water huge amounts of ground.
I like these cards, mind if I share them on some other forums?
I would also maybe work on digging a trench to the stream from your garden if the terrain is right for that. digging a small trench a few feet a day would not kill you with labor. If the water was low and didn't flow that great consider laying some type of wicking material and build raised beds plant as much as possible in as little space possible so you are not having to water huge amounts of ground.
I like these cards, mind if I share them on some other forums?
Not at all!
Well, I never considered a screw/auger.
