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ronny

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Yeah, that's the downside of living in Oklahoma - weather-related price increases. Guess what's gonna happen after this year's weather funnies.
 

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Kind of like that. I would like policies that I can understand without legal council to explain them. It's sometimes like dealing with a car salesman. You know he's trying to get money out you, you're just not sure how hard he's putting it to you. It's like the guy with the pool that was floated by the rains. His insurance company denied his claim based on his lack of flood coverage. The definition of a flood is when water covers the ground. Since he didn't experience this, they should cover it. How many of you knew that floods covered water in the ground? According to the definition given, if you have a well, you live on a flood plain.

After the whole AIG debacle, I have no warm fuzzy feelings for insurance companies.

Yeah because what you propose is working SO well for the Health industry. Think you have high premiums now? Wait till the government gets involved and you get your "cover everyone" wish. Did I log into the Democratic Underground by mistake?

BTW, covering catastrophic events would be impossible.
 

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I had farmers insurance for almost 16 years and have never had an accident until last year. I paid my $500 deductible and those bastards fought with my body shop tooth and nail about fixing all the damage. They also fought with my mechanic tooth and nail to fix the mechanical damage done during the accident. Fast forward to just a few months ago when we decided to get two new cars. I called them to get a quote for the two new cars and the price they quoted me just to add the two new cars was almost $250.00 more per month. I called geico and they quoted me better coverage, zero on my deductibles, and full coverage on the Burbank at half the price of my original insurance. Honestly I should have switched a long time ago. Their prices have done nothing but go up while at the same time their service has gone to ****.
 

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I work in the healthcare industry and it's fine so far. And on a side note, I don't relate to either democrats or republicans as I don't follow the strict followings of one or the other. thanks for the generalization though, it's nice to know that in a few short posts you're able to resort to those tactics instead of having a civilized conversation.

covering a catastrophic event isn't impossible. It's just not cost effective for the people who run the companies expecting 7 figure salaries. OK may be a losing state, but they make enough off the others to cover their loses. If they didn't, they wouldn't still be in business. Please, cry me a river.

You're the only healthcare working I've heard say "it's fine so far." Granted I was merely speaking from a consumer standpoint as the state has seen a significant rise in premiums across the board, especially to individuals, with a sizeable attrition of coverage. Internally, the coding and billing nightmare it's caused so far has racked up hundreds of millions in costs across the nation and created a bureaucratic nightmare. So you might be naïve to the effect it's having on individuals and especially small business owners, but the reality is there.

Now you may believe that you don't relate to Democrats, but your comments sure fall in line with their philosophies.


Also, in applying some basic math, it's pretty easy to see that real catastrophic events would be a killer to most companies if they stood on their own. It's just too bad we live in America where those evil companies can do as they please eh? In a perfect world I'd love to be able to subsidize earthquake insurance for southern Californians.
 

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And again you've misconstrued what I'm saying. I'm not saying the companies are evil. What I said was I would like to see a more across the board plan. In other words, Plan A from any company covers the same stuff. give me a price. Plan B has more options, but they all offer the same thing across the board at all companies. That would make paying for insurance easier for most people. Plan A is Plan A, no matter the company. This is how much it costs. the costs can vary from company to company, that's fine. Just stop hiding behind legalese to make your plan seem cheaper.

and as far as the flood. Merriam Webster's definition is :
1
a : a rising and overflowing of a body of water especially onto normally dry land; also : a condition of overflowing <rivers in flood>
b capitalized : a flood described in the Bible as covering the earth in the time of Noah
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: the flowing in of the tide
3
: an overwhelming quantity or volume; also : a state of abundant flow or volume -often used in the phrase in full flood <a debate in full flood>


I've highlighted the part that it took an entire judicial system to F up yet again. Seriously, it's just a case of the companies not wanting to hurt their profit margins. I understand that. I guess that's why i just don't like people who worship money more than they are able to help others.


Problem is..... private run insurance is about risk. You can't have completely standardized coverage available everywhere as the risks just aren't the same. Don't like it? Self-insure.

The whole I can't read a legal contract doesn't fly with me. That's what REALLY caused the AIG mess you spoke of earlier. Well.... that and politicians trying to put everyone in a home.
 

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All policies and rates are reviewed by the insurance commissioner before it can be offered for sale. And Act of God isn't really a term used in property casualty coverages any longer. Perils are all named as covered or excluded depending on the policy form (special vs broad).

There's very little that is regulated more than your insurance coverage already is. But it sounds like yall want it offered like the affordable care act offers health insurance.

I was kind of surprised when I heard a USAA rep quote "act of God" to me once about 4 years ago. But that was how they explained why my rates wouldn't increase after I had my roof, fence, garage door, and siding replaced on my house after hail and a downdraft storm. They said rates don't go up because of damage related to an "act of God" (ie weather related). I love usaa for all things insurance. They don't have a ton of gimmicky stuff that some other companies do, but they have good rates and some of the best customer service out there.


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Of course rates go up because of "an act of God" (i.e., weather related). Rates are promulgated using formulas which involve claim costs, including weather related costs. They can also go down for the same reason when a company has good claim experience.
 

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