Muhammed Ali won't be down for breakfast.

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Like I said, thank God there are people like you who are willing to serve. There's no nobler thing a person can do, money or not.

I respect that sentiment, but I think the nobler thing is actually serving. There is a gap between willing and doing, in my opinion.

It is more noble to have served than to be willing to serve.
 

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And what principle would that be?

Won't fight for his Country because he doesn't believe in violence then makes a living beathing the S%^t outta people?
Cheat on your wife?
Align with the teachings of Elijah Muhammad and Malcolm X?
Hated white people?

Yeah, that's the kind of Americans we need more of...




Well......white people were hanging black men and treating blacks as if they weren't worthy of being citizens of the U.S. at the time of that interview. Boxing is about beating the **** out of people like NASCAR is about crashing cars.

Ali was also aligned with the teachings of Martin Luther King Jr.
 

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He was a great and very entertaining boxer. He was also the consummate showman. But he also refused to serve. And he also embraced the Muslim faith. He was the hero-villain that many people wanted to see get his ass beat. That whole "I'm the greatest" thing sure sold a lot of tickets! I do not place him on any hero's pedestal. He did no more for human rights and the civil rights movement than Rosa Parks, Clara Luper or Ada Lois Sipuel Fisher. Yet, who amongst us doesn't know about the rope-a-dope?


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Waylon Jennings cheated on his wife. I doubt he'd be shittalked this much when he died had OSA been around in 2002.

Christ almighty. Who models their own life of ANYONE else, anyways? He was a boxer and a public figure and a damned good and interesting one at that.

The founding fathers everyone here reveres so much had some dirt on their shoes, too.

Ali brought controversy and challenged established norms. That's always needed. Apparently he can piss people here off from beyond the grave - sounds like his hyperbolic trash talk had some merit too it.
 

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He did not dodge the draft, he gave up everything while standing on his principals. If anything, we need more Americans like Ali.
Waylon Jennings cheated on his wife. I doubt he'd be shittalked this much when he died had OSA been around in 2002.

Christ almighty. Who models their own life of ANYONE else, anyways? He was a boxer and a public figure and a damned good and interesting one at that.

The founding fathers everyone here reveres so much had some dirt on their shoes, too.

Ali brought controversy and challenged established norms. That's always needed. Apparently he can piss people here off from beyond the grave - sounds like his hyperbolic trash talk had some merit too it.

It doesn't take much to snowball you. Ali did what he did for one reason, money. He was an entertainer. His persona was nothing but an act. Slobber on....
 

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