Official OSA COVID-19/Corona Virus Thread

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dennishoddy

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It appears the CDC has been lacking in investigating when the Carona virus first appeared in the US.
The first confirmed coronavirus case in the U.S. was reported on Jan. 19 in a Washington man after returning from Wuhan, China, where the first outbreak of COVID-19 occurred.

Now, data from a new government study paints a different picture — the coronavirus may have been silently spreading in America as early as December 2019.
Researchers with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention collected 7,389 blood samples from routine donations to the American Red Cross between Dec. 13, 2019 and Jan. 17, 2020. (bolding is mine)

Of the samples, 106 contained coronavirus antibodies, suggesting those individuals’ immune systems battled COVID-19 at some point.

A total of 39 donations carrying coronavirus antibodies came from residents in the western states of California, Oregon and Washington and 67 samples from the more eastern states of Connecticut, Iowa, Massachusetts, Michigan, Rhode Island and Wisconsin.
The study, published Monday in the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases, adds to growing evidence that the coronavirus had been spreading right under our noses long before testing could confirm it.

“The presence of these serum antibodies indicate that isolated SARS-CoV-2 infections may have occurred in the western portion of the United States earlier than previously recognized or that a small portion of the population may have pre-existing antibodies that bind SARS-CoV-2,” the study reads.

However, the researchers say “widespread community transmission was not likely until late February.”

Some of these early infections may have gone unnoticed because patients with mild or asymptomatic cases may not have sought medical care at the time, the researchers explain in the study. Sick patients with symptoms who did visit a doctor may not have had a respiratory sample collected, so appropriate testing may not have been conducted.

But the researchers wonder if the detection of antibodies in these patient samples really does indicate a past coronavirus infection, and not of another pathogen in the coronavirus family, such as the common cold.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article247530705.html

This brings up several questions. If the CDC had these samples in hand in 2019 and knew it was spreading, why is the official date of the "first case" said to be in January?
Why is that information they had just now coming out?
 

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It is interesting that we can believe all the theories on voter fraud, and battles between Seals and CIA, but we sure don’t want to believe that masks actually do help reduce the spread of this virus...
Cause there is no data to support this world wide hoax, instigated by 150 of the wealthiest men and women in the world to collude with foreign countries ONLY to control the outcome of our election.
If you haven't surmised thst yet, maybe you should ponder it.
 

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My dad died after having covid.he tested negative a week or so before he passed and I told mom if his death certificate comes in saying covid was the cause, I'd fight it with an attorney.
Well today the certificate came and it said "cause of death: respiratory heart failure.
I was satisfied with that.
 

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Cause there is no data to support this world wide hoax, instigated by 150 of the wealthiest men and women in the world to collude with foreign countries ONLY to control the outcome of our election.
If you haven't surmised thst yet, maybe you should ponder it.

WOW... And they were able to fool the entire world without a single one of those 150 telling their secret.
 

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It is interesting that we can believe all the theories on voter fraud, and battles between Seals and CIA, but we sure don’t want to believe that masks actually do help reduce the spread of this virus...

There has been stories and claims that a high percentage of people that got the Covid-19 "wore masks regularly," and Reuters has attempted to debunk those claims. However, even their own article points out that there is truth in the numbers.

First, a link to the Reuters Fact Checking article: Reuters Fact Check

Now, having provided the link to the story, here is a pertinent quote from that article:

"While the numbers mentioned in these claims are authentic (see page 3), the data is missing context. It is true that 85% of people in the study who tested positive for the coronavirus were reported to have worn a mask always or often. It is also true that mask-wearing levels were reportedly high (88.7%) among people who did not catch the virus."

As to the last statement, there is no guarantee that masks alone protected those that didn't catch the virus. The wife and I have traveled to numerous states during this whole Covid scare, and in three or four of those states, we stayed in hotels. The ONLY time we wore masks was when it was required for entry to a building. Most times, social distancing has been somewhat observed by us. Neither of us have had any issues from traveling in the 9 states that we were in.
 

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It's not an argument of rona, it's an argument of germs. Same reason surgeons wear masks in surgery, as to not contaminate the person they're slicing up. Also, nobody, not even the CDC is advocating that masks prevent transmission of this or any virus, however, when worn properly, two layers of quilted material have proven to slow the transmission.... not to prevent the wearer from contracting, but to prevent the wearer from unknowingly transmitting... but they only work when in conjuction with social distancing.

Masks have become the talking point in all of this, but really, social distancing is the key. Masks help contain germs to a much smaller radius. If you're masked up and standing shoulder to shoulder with the other neckbeards at Academy in the morning, it isn't doing much good.
 

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It would seem that many have forgotten how their mother would always tell us to cover you mouth when you sneeze, cough, yawn, etc. The spreading of germs is not something new, it is common courtesy and concern for those around us. We seem to have forgotten that concept while declaring "they can't tell me what to do, I have rights".
 
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