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SoonerP226 said:

So, who’s saying election fraud is acceptable? So far, I’ve only seen anyone say that there’s not evidence of enough of it to swing the election, which is far from the same thing as saying it’s acceptable.

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You are missing the big picture. ANY election involving fraud is enough to "sway" any election. Such an election has no validity. I'm not saying the party that didn't commit any fraud should automatically win, however. Either a new fool-proof election must be conducted under strict scrutiny(paper ballots, many observers) or the legislature of the state should assign electors.

Woody

SoonerP226 said:

So, who’s saying election fraud is acceptable? So far, I’ve only seen anyone say that there’s not evidence of enough of it to swing the election, which is far from the same thing as saying it’s acceptable.

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Ray Charles could have seen this fraud, Stevie Wonder did see this fraud. Just sayin', but anyone who will dismiss this as a 'small thing', or even say that fraud did not happen is either lyin', short on brains, or thinks it is okay to steal from others.

Plain and simple; Crime is Crime, Theft is Theft. Just because yo cannot pin it directly on Biden, Crime is Crime, Theft is Theft. Period!

Dale00 said:

Hillary was a pathetic campaigner who did not appear to even be trying in the closing weeks of the 2016 campaign.
Biden was a pathetic campaigner who did not seem to even be trying in the closing weeks of the 2020 campaign.
This is a highly unlikely coincidence.

The 2020 election vote count tipped to Biden in five vote counting locations: Atlanta, Milwaukee, Detroit, Philadelphia, Phoenix

• These locations (first four at least) are notorious for being under the control of a corrupt political Democratic party machine
• Republican election observer volunteers were inhibited and harassed in the same way in all these locations
• Vote counting shut down at the same time in all these locations and then a dump of new votes into the system overcame Trump's lead giving Biden the win in that state.

These things and many more speak to a shift in the underlying process consistent with election fraud.....not to mention media bias and A.I. manipulation of opinion.
If you do not see anything here, you are being willfully blind. The manner in which these patterns formed give ample basis for invalidating the elections in those five states. Stop the steal or be complicit in it.

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There was a guy that testified under oath that the dominion tabulators could only process 20,000 votes per hour maximum if they were in normal operation. He is a computer scientist that crunched the numbers and noted that during the middle of the night biden spike the machines were operating at 8000 ballots per minute. The only way that could happen is if they were connected to the internet or a thumb drive was used to make the dump.
Also heard that the machines in Michigan that switched 6K votes from Trump to biden have been court ordered to allow the Trump team to do a forensic analysis of the software.

ConstitutionCowboy said:

Not enough fraud? Fraud is fraud! Little or big, what does it matter to the law? So what if - according to that smartazz board member - it isn't enough to change the election results? Are the fraudsters to go unpunished because it wasn't enough fraud? Where is the limit? Who sets the limit? If it doesn't rise to the level of a certain limit is it still a fraud?

Any conclusions derived utilizing any fraudulent data is illegitimate. How can it be anything but illegitimate? If there is no way to separate out and omit fraudulent ballots, then the entire election has to be voided. This fraud would also affect down-ballot races as well. Everyone with a name on any of these ballots ought to be raging.

Woody

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How do you think the dims keep ahold of all those mayoral races in places like Atlanta, Baltimore, etc. They have election rigging down to an art and have for many years.

Slim Deal said:

Ray Charles could have seen this fraud, Stevie Wonder did see this fraud. Just sayin', but anyone who will dismiss this as a 'small thing', or even say that fraud did not happen is either lyin', short on brains, or thinks it is okay to steal from others.

Plain and simple; Crime is Crime, Theft is Theft. Just because yo cannot pin it directly on Biden, Crime is Crime, Theft is Theft. Period!

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I'm not sure why you quoted my post, as your response has nothing to do with what I posted.

At this point everyone agrees that voting fraud was committed, but no one knows for sure how much fraud.

There is no way to tell if it was enough or not to change the result in each voting area.

One thing is for sure, we will never know the true numbers of vote fraud because by its very nature vote fraud is hidden.

Here lies our conundrum. Since the election process is tainted and we will never know the number of legal votes for any person. What do we do to fix the problem?

FRISKY said:

At this point everyone agrees that voting fraud was committed, but no one knows for sure how much fraud.

There is no way to tell if it was enough or not to change the result in each voting area.

One thing is for sure, we will never know the true numbers of vote fraud because by its very nature vote fraud is hidden.

Here lies our conundrum. Since the election process is tainted and we will never know the number of legal votes for any person. What do we do to fix the problem?

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My personal choice would be to redo the election in the contested states. The election would be in-person voting and true (tracked) absentee voting only with strict oversight and controls.

dennishoddy said:

How do you think the dims keep ahold of all those mayoral races in places like Atlanta, Baltimore, etc. They have election rigging down to an art and have for many years.

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They'd best be careful. Because Athens, Tennessee.

Woody

There are numerous posts in which claims have been shared that the number of votes added in a period of time exceeded the capacity of the vote counting machines. Other claims have been made that the number of votes in some areas exceeded the number of voters or even the number of residents. These claims if verified may yield a number of votes in a particular state election sufficient to change the outcome of that election.

But if there is no such clarity, i foresee some major head butting. Unfortunately the race card seems to come into play...."How dare you disinfranchise my voters in Detroit?"

The "system" in these democrat political machine controlled cities wants things to just slide on though and it wants to protect election vote tabulators from investigation. Corruption

Jefferson would remind us that people are not angels. Election vote counting is always going to be an adversarial process. It should be a serious crime (federal?) to interfere with or expel an election observer.

We do have a non-violent means of demanding election results be invalidated by state legislatures: mass protests. Thousands turning out to bang pots and pans have effected changes in political leadership in numerous places. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cacerolazo

Slim Deal said:

Ray Charles could have seen this fraud, Stevie Wonder did see this fraud. Just sayin', but anyone who will dismiss this as a 'small thing', or even say that fraud did not happen is either lyin', short on brains, or thinks it is okay to steal from others.

Plain and simple; Crime is Crime, Theft is Theft. Just because yo cannot pin it directly on Biden, Crime is Crime, Theft is Theft. Period!

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I don’t like it either but we have NEVER lived in a perfect world or had a perfect election without some short comings. I promise that is simply not possible in a country of 300 million. If you believe otherwise well,as always I have some ocean front property in in Oologah for sale. Way too simplistic