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Lol to the Alexa-phobia....best get of the internet, ditch your computers, smart phones, and auto nav systems etc. while you’re at it.

Its a neat tool. We use it for any number of home automation purposes, with eyes wide open about the privacy implications. (We have Sidewalk disabled).

I agree there really is no privacy. But to install an internet connected device to listen to EVERY word spoken in your house just seems crazy to me.
 

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I agree there really is no privacy. But to install an internet connected device to listen to EVERY word spoken in your house just seems crazy to me.

If you don’t think your smart phone (if you have one) is capable of doing the exact same thing...even when you think it’s turned off...then you’re really not protecting yourself. That goes for smart TVs and computers too. Anything with a microphone connected to the internet for that matter.
 

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If you don’t think your smart phone (if you have one) is capable of doing the exact same thing...even when you think it’s turned off...then you’re really not protecting yourself. That goes for smart TVs and computers too. Anything with a microphone connected to the internet for that matter.

Oh, I know. I jokingly (mostly) mentioned sound proof boxes for smartphones above. The phone offers me enough usefulness that I'm willing to sacrifice privacy I guess. I see the Alexa type devices as a purpose built privacy invader.

What are the legalities of gov using these as listening devices? Can they get a warrant and have Amazon turn on the mike? Or can the government do the same with the phone mic?

I'm not a tech person, but wouldn't opening up your network to your neighbor make it much easier for the Alexa to be hacked?
 

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Oh, I know. I jokingly (mostly) mentioned sound proof boxes for smartphones above. The phone offers me enough usefulness that I'm willing to sacrifice privacy I guess. I see the Alexa type devices as a purpose built privacy invader.

What are the legalities of gov using these as listening devices? Can they get a warrant and have Amazon turn on the mike? Or can the government do the same with the phone mic?

I'm not a tech person, but wouldn't opening up your network to your neighbor make it much easier for the Alexa to be hacked?

Easier? Maybe...but since it’s already connected to the WWW, it’s already super vulnerable.

It’s all vulnerable so accepting “scales of vulnerability” is really a fabrication to make us feel better. There’s a guy at work who routinely plugs his iPhone into his laptop to recharge it via USB....but he has a sticky note covering his laptop camera. That sticky note makes him feel like he’s protecting his privacy but meanwhile he’s connected his personal phone, with multiple cameras in it, to his employer laptop connected to his employers network, connected to the WWW LOL.

Note the date, imagine what they are capable of now? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th...te-android-and-laptop-microphones-reports-wsj
 

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My employer, who is a cellular/internet/everything provider, puts out enough training, emails, and employer spam stuff about privacy and security it would make you paranoid. BTW, they also provide us little plastic slider thingies to cover our laptop cameras.
 

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Your IPhone is definitely listening.
Wife and I can be discussing something in the vehicle or home. Something will come up about an issue we aren’t sure about, so I’ll google it. What we were discussing Will be the first suggestion that pops up before I finish typing. It does it with such regularity that it can no way be random.
Duck duck go isn’t quite so intuitive but it still does it.
 

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Your IPhone is definitely listening.
Wife and I can be discussing something in the vehicle or home. Something will come up about an issue we aren’t sure about, so I’ll google it. What we were discussing Will be the first suggestion that pops up before I finish typing. It does it with such regularity that it can no way be random.
Duck duck go isn’t quite so intuitive but it still does it.

That's just predictive text based off trillions of other searches.
 

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Oh, I know. I jokingly (mostly) mentioned sound proof boxes for smartphones above. The phone offers me enough usefulness that I'm willing to sacrifice privacy I guess. I see the Alexa type devices as a purpose built privacy invader.

What are the legalities of gov using these as listening devices? Can they get a warrant and have Amazon turn on the mike? Or can the government do the same with the phone mic?

I'm not a tech person, but wouldn't opening up your network to your neighbor make it much easier for the Alexa to be hacked?

Soundproof boxes for your cell phone doesn’t make much sense. How do you plan on hearing it ring ;)

the mic is already on, if it wasn’t how would it know you said Siri or Alexa? I have both, they aren’t hooked up unless we are using it, which isn’t often.
 

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They know which item you might be looking at and for how long. This was billed to us as a way they can conveniently provide you with say, a coupon, for that item while you are looking at it. Probably less of a shock, but the same training class talked about how they already use your receipts to send coupons to your house so "it's not that different". We thought it was just creepy.

Everything about everyone is out there. It is just a matter of mining the data in a way useful to who wants it.

Not necessarily working in my life. If I happen to turn on "Location" on my phone, I might get a little question later as to how I liked (wherever it was I was at.) If "Location" is off (like it is 98% of the time), I don't get those questions. As for coupons, we never get any of those.
 

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