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12ga AR15 is the correct answer.

This guy has a CZ collection that's probably worth well over $1,000,000 http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=284803&highlight=porn Warning: Bandwidth Intensive Pictures Don't even try this on dialup

The firefight in question occurred in July of 2008. If significant numbers of troops are sent to Afghanistan they will come from Iraq.

Because some of them have been visiting WM and buying up everything on the shelf for months. :disappoin After the shelves at WM are empty, panicky buyers are more willing to pay exorbitant prices for ordinary FMJ ammo. Don't tell anyone tho. It's a secret. :)

A 527 in .223 is on my Christmas wishlist right now.

I'm sure they had some 452 Americans. What else did they have? Any 527 Centerfires?

Here ya go: http://www.okshooters.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65736

H&H has a new one for $725 Look in the classifieds. A member there has a used but very good condition BDA for sale.

The old "criminals run at the sound of a 12ga pump" always struck me as more hope than battle plan. It might happen. It sometimes does happen. It's NOT a plan.

I wish I lived in the Tulsa area. :doh:

Simplicity and reliability = Revolver for new gun owners. The question of children in the house and their potential access to firearms in the home is valid though.

Nice Try.:) Do you think this argument will fly anywhere outside of a gun forum?

Here is the report if you are interested. http://www.nyc.gov/html/om/pdf/2009/pr442-09_report.pdf Pay particular attention to page 14:

We agree on this?:blush: I may have to rethink my position. LOL :)

Yep, me too. Here is my dilema: Do I want a .223 with a 1:12 twist OR a .223 with a 1:9 twist The ruger and the CZ are 'targeted', pardon the pun, at 2 different purposes and I haven't decided which is right for me yet.

We must close the 'Orchid Show Loophole' :pms2: Don't get me wrong. I would like to see Bloomberg burned for violating BATF regulations too. Just don't get your hopes up. Bloomberg didn't get to be a billionaire out of stupidity or because he overlooked a little loophole like what's legal...

You are Assuming that's what happened. Since Bloomberg likely had legal counsel orchestrating this I doubt they violated the law. If he hired these investigators from the 3 states where the gun shows were held it wouldn't violate the law, would it? And that would explain why he felt confident...

Here is the most disgusting part: Since the operation took place from May-Aug I will retract my original comment about "they probably got the idea from the couple who videotaped acorn". Maybe it's the other way around?

More Info please? I'm not disputing your word; I just haven't heard/read of it. Or if I did I forgot during one of my long naps. Anyway, I would truly enjoy it if Bloomberg has been 'previously informed that their activities are illegal' :) OK, I will admit it. It would make my day. So...

Um, NO. They were both attempting to videotape illegal, or possibly illegal activity. If either one broke a law in doing so they should be held accountable. Private, Municipal, State, or Federal. I think that was shadow's point, and I agree with him. We are a nation of laws. They apply to...