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<blockquote data-quote="hubel585" data-source="post: 1679994"><p>We are always looking for way to shoot 8 and 10s</p><p>using easy to get components,cheap, without buying</p><p>loaded rounds for big bucks, if available at all.</p><p></p><p>In 8ga falling block, plastic case got 930gr hollowbase</p><p>slug to 2300, It is a slug for 10 ga that we expanded</p><p>base a little to fit tight in 8ga wadcup. On the left in </p><p>picture. At 30 yds 3" group. Just with open sight,</p><p>About like the 10ga sight bead. There is enough hollow in </p><p>the base it flies pretty good from 8ga smooth barrel.</p><p></p><p>Along same line, in my 10ga 32" smooth bull barrel with a </p><p>750 gr .69cal hollowbase Dixie MZ slug in VP100 </p><p>10ga wadcup about same speed and same accuracy.</p><p>Nice to just get a box of slugs that is in stock,</p><p>and a 2 cent cent wadcup and Fed 3.5" 10ga plastic cases </p><p>and be shooting cheap.And the cases roll crimp nice</p><p>down to these slugs...</p><p></p><p> <img src="https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.gunownerstv.com_8gawad.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>A different, interesting style, of 12ga slug, from Russia.</p><p>First picture loaded round, in plastic, roll crimped.</p><p>Second, two types of slugs they have on the same base.</p><p>Base for rifled barrel, little smaller diameter than the </p><p>front. Looks like the roll crimp locks against</p><p>the edge of the base. Neat idea, and it could have a</p><p>flat meplat slug on the front of the base like </p><p>the US-S brass slugs from Greece are on the </p><p>plastic bases, that I have here. They must use a crimping</p><p>die with a deep hollow up in the middle. We have thought</p><p>of taking a roll crimper and putting a deeper recess</p><p>in middle to load longer nose slugs further out so as to</p><p>have more room for our slower powders...</p><p></p><p> <img src="https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.gunownerstv.com_rucase.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> </p><p></p><p> <img src="https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.gunownerstv.com_ruslug.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>Here is picture of a great sizer for expanded plastic</p><p>cases, a MEC Super Sizer. It operates with collets. Sizes</p><p>cases better than factory. Has the power to shrink</p><p>expanded basecups. 2nd picture is the roll crimper tool</p><p>in drill press, it does plastic cases as good a roll crimp</p><p>as the factory does.You can see couple we crimped</p><p>behind press base in picture...Ed</p><p></p><p><img src="https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.gunownerstv.com_mec.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p><img src="https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.gunownerstv.com_drill.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hubel585, post: 1679994"] We are always looking for way to shoot 8 and 10s using easy to get components,cheap, without buying loaded rounds for big bucks, if available at all. In 8ga falling block, plastic case got 930gr hollowbase slug to 2300, It is a slug for 10 ga that we expanded base a little to fit tight in 8ga wadcup. On the left in picture. At 30 yds 3" group. Just with open sight, About like the 10ga sight bead. There is enough hollow in the base it flies pretty good from 8ga smooth barrel. Along same line, in my 10ga 32" smooth bull barrel with a 750 gr .69cal hollowbase Dixie MZ slug in VP100 10ga wadcup about same speed and same accuracy. Nice to just get a box of slugs that is in stock, and a 2 cent cent wadcup and Fed 3.5" 10ga plastic cases and be shooting cheap.And the cases roll crimp nice down to these slugs... [IMG]https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.gunownerstv.com_8gawad.jpg[/IMG] A different, interesting style, of 12ga slug, from Russia. First picture loaded round, in plastic, roll crimped. Second, two types of slugs they have on the same base. Base for rifled barrel, little smaller diameter than the front. Looks like the roll crimp locks against the edge of the base. Neat idea, and it could have a flat meplat slug on the front of the base like the US-S brass slugs from Greece are on the plastic bases, that I have here. They must use a crimping die with a deep hollow up in the middle. We have thought of taking a roll crimper and putting a deeper recess in middle to load longer nose slugs further out so as to have more room for our slower powders... [IMG]https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.gunownerstv.com_rucase.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.gunownerstv.com_ruslug.jpg[/IMG] Here is picture of a great sizer for expanded plastic cases, a MEC Super Sizer. It operates with collets. Sizes cases better than factory. Has the power to shrink expanded basecups. 2nd picture is the roll crimper tool in drill press, it does plastic cases as good a roll crimp as the factory does.You can see couple we crimped behind press base in picture...Ed [IMG]https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.gunownerstv.com_mec.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.gunownerstv.com_drill.jpg[/IMG] [/QUOTE]
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