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<blockquote data-quote="hubel585" data-source="post: 1718965"><p>Here is some more older cartridges and ideas.</p><p>First is a fellows collection of older brass cases.</p><p>They look like Berdan primed. Run from</p><p>36ga to 12ga, big one on right is flare cartridge.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.gunownerstv.com_36_12brass.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> </p><p></p><p>Second is a paper case clad with</p><p>thin brass nearly to the top.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.gunownerstv.com_paperbrass.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Third is picture of paper case crimped into</p><p>the side of a slug with shallow grooves.I did one</p><p>pictured above with a Dixie slug.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.gunownerstv.com_papercrimp.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Some experimenting with 12ga discarding style sabot idea</p><p>that takes 58cal slugs/bullets.I pictured them above. </p><p>A fullbore,bore fitting sabot that takes 575-580 cal</p><p>slugs or bullets, cast or jacketed. </p><p></p><p>For reloaders to use, and not undersize ones</p><p>that have been available, for reloading guys. That</p><p>the guys haven't been able to get speed and accuracy </p><p>at the same time. These sabots are super accurate in</p><p>most tests, in factory Remington sabot loads. Much</p><p>more so than the undersize sabots reloaders have </p><p>had to work with. </p><p></p><p>I tested with the 440 gr .575cal hollowbase</p><p>Dixie Gunworks # BA-1103 lead slug and 3 shots from</p><p>heavy long barrel NEF nearly into same hole, at</p><p>30yds. Gun locked down. Going about 2200.</p><p>Our slow powder loads in 3.5" plastic.</p><p>Can be loaded faster. </p><p></p><p>No tests at long range, bad eyes/no scope, colder</p><p>than witches ---, and no time.</p><p>I am trying to find who makes these.There are</p><p>about 2000 injection mold companies in US.Ed</p><p></p><p><img src="https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.gunownerstv.com_12ls58.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hubel585, post: 1718965"] Here is some more older cartridges and ideas. First is a fellows collection of older brass cases. They look like Berdan primed. Run from 36ga to 12ga, big one on right is flare cartridge. [IMG]https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.gunownerstv.com_36_12brass.jpg[/IMG] Second is a paper case clad with thin brass nearly to the top. [IMG]https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.gunownerstv.com_paperbrass.jpg[/IMG] Third is picture of paper case crimped into the side of a slug with shallow grooves.I did one pictured above with a Dixie slug. [IMG]https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.gunownerstv.com_papercrimp.jpg[/IMG] Some experimenting with 12ga discarding style sabot idea that takes 58cal slugs/bullets.I pictured them above. A fullbore,bore fitting sabot that takes 575-580 cal slugs or bullets, cast or jacketed. For reloaders to use, and not undersize ones that have been available, for reloading guys. That the guys haven't been able to get speed and accuracy at the same time. These sabots are super accurate in most tests, in factory Remington sabot loads. Much more so than the undersize sabots reloaders have had to work with. I tested with the 440 gr .575cal hollowbase Dixie Gunworks # BA-1103 lead slug and 3 shots from heavy long barrel NEF nearly into same hole, at 30yds. Gun locked down. Going about 2200. Our slow powder loads in 3.5" plastic. Can be loaded faster. No tests at long range, bad eyes/no scope, colder than witches ---, and no time. I am trying to find who makes these.There are about 2000 injection mold companies in US.Ed [IMG]https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.gunownerstv.com_12ls58.jpg[/IMG] [/QUOTE]
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