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<blockquote data-quote="hubel585" data-source="post: 1742705"><p>Some possibilities with the 12ga sabots we have been</p><p>looking at. We may have possible leads on companies that</p><p>can make sabots, that have most of equipment to do so.</p><p>If they work out ok, the startup cost isn't as</p><p>high as others who have to set up complete machines.</p><p>We are working to line up a dealer who will get good ones </p><p>made, at one of these sabot making companies.WE hope to</p><p>have similiar design as the ones pictured below</p><p>but with slightly thicker base. I've sent these sabots</p><p>with Dixie cast slugs to different companies to show</p><p>what is needed, and what the full size specs should be.</p><p>With Dixie cast in they are similiar to Federal</p><p>Fusion sabots with lead slugs, only our slugs are 58cal.</p><p>We will keep you informed on what happens. At least 5</p><p>58cal slugs that Dixie has, looks maybe to work in these,</p><p>as best I can tell. And there are a few molds for</p><p>58cal cast slugs, by different companies.</p><p>The possibilities are, to reload with decent price slugs</p><p>and simple inexpensive sabot like these, for buck a round.</p><p>40-60 cent slug, 15-20 cent sabot, powder/primer 30 cents.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.gunownerstv.com_12ga58dixie.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Those sabots I pictured above we been testing, had 385gr</p><p>Remington plastic nose bullets. I used some in my</p><p>585HE and I get them to 3900 fps. Just to see how</p><p>fast was possible in the 585. If I shot them in</p><p>my biggest 585, the 585 HSM, they'd go about 4500 or so.</p><p>They are real light compared to 750gr 585 cal bullets.</p><p>Like a varmint round. Do up a coyote fine.All skinned.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.gunownerstv.com_585remslug.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Some neat guns-First is a 20ga smooth bore Beretta style</p><p>break action 20ga. This is one of the greatest style</p><p>break actions there is. Beretta made their trap guns on</p><p>actions like this and great value for no more</p><p>than they cost. This one only 100 bucks.</p><p>We lengthened chamber to 3.5" so it can</p><p>use various 20ga smoothbore slug loads that we are </p><p>working on and testing..The SPW, Hastings, Lightfield</p><p>type 20ga slugs have decent 50yd accuracy in heavier</p><p>smooth barrels.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.gunownerstv.com_sile20.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Next is couple of older guns I found pictures of,</p><p>a 4bore Hughes and a 600NE Wilke. I like them.</p><p>2nd is special 20ga double that poster Nitro 450 Express</p><p>on the NitroExpress forum had built. Great job</p><p>on nice looking slug gun.Ed</p><p></p><p></p><p><img src="https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.gunownerstv.com_4bor600n.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p><img src="https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.gunownerstv.com_ne450ex20.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hubel585, post: 1742705"] Some possibilities with the 12ga sabots we have been looking at. We may have possible leads on companies that can make sabots, that have most of equipment to do so. If they work out ok, the startup cost isn't as high as others who have to set up complete machines. We are working to line up a dealer who will get good ones made, at one of these sabot making companies.WE hope to have similiar design as the ones pictured below but with slightly thicker base. I've sent these sabots with Dixie cast slugs to different companies to show what is needed, and what the full size specs should be. With Dixie cast in they are similiar to Federal Fusion sabots with lead slugs, only our slugs are 58cal. We will keep you informed on what happens. At least 5 58cal slugs that Dixie has, looks maybe to work in these, as best I can tell. And there are a few molds for 58cal cast slugs, by different companies. The possibilities are, to reload with decent price slugs and simple inexpensive sabot like these, for buck a round. 40-60 cent slug, 15-20 cent sabot, powder/primer 30 cents. [IMG]https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.gunownerstv.com_12ga58dixie.jpg[/IMG] Those sabots I pictured above we been testing, had 385gr Remington plastic nose bullets. I used some in my 585HE and I get them to 3900 fps. Just to see how fast was possible in the 585. If I shot them in my biggest 585, the 585 HSM, they'd go about 4500 or so. They are real light compared to 750gr 585 cal bullets. Like a varmint round. Do up a coyote fine.All skinned. [IMG]https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.gunownerstv.com_585remslug.jpg[/IMG] Some neat guns-First is a 20ga smooth bore Beretta style break action 20ga. This is one of the greatest style break actions there is. Beretta made their trap guns on actions like this and great value for no more than they cost. This one only 100 bucks. We lengthened chamber to 3.5" so it can use various 20ga smoothbore slug loads that we are working on and testing..The SPW, Hastings, Lightfield type 20ga slugs have decent 50yd accuracy in heavier smooth barrels. [IMG]https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.gunownerstv.com_sile20.jpg[/IMG] Next is couple of older guns I found pictures of, a 4bore Hughes and a 600NE Wilke. I like them. 2nd is special 20ga double that poster Nitro 450 Express on the NitroExpress forum had built. Great job on nice looking slug gun.Ed [IMG]https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.gunownerstv.com_4bor600n.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.gunownerstv.com_ne450ex20.jpg[/IMG] [/QUOTE]
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