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<blockquote data-quote="hubel585" data-source="post: 1786816"><p>I think we found good overall sabot design that will</p><p>be the easiest to get made, easiest to get seals</p><p>and whatever wads needed... Keeping design simple.</p><p>It is same simple design as the ones pictured above</p><p>but with slightly thicker base.It is fairly compact</p><p>for more room for our slow powder loads, and when</p><p>using slower powders, we don't need as much cushioning</p><p>which makes the room for the powder. Larger charges</p><p>of slower powder, better velocity with less case</p><p>expansion, and more reloads possible.</p><p></p><p>We hadn't tested soft lead 58cal slugs in 12ga sabots</p><p>for penetration until now.. They did very well,</p><p>two different 440 gr ones, going though 4 inch dried</p><p>timber, pushing out some wood on the back.</p><p>Shows they are just starting to expand.Should do great</p><p>for deer and hogs. Going 2200 in long barrel NEF.</p><p>Have pictures later. A 58cal slug at good speed is </p><p>nothing to look down on. Many African hunters liked</p><p>that caliber in their 577 doubles for big game.</p><p>Slugs can be loaded faster, cast heavier,</p><p>and cast harder for any need.And compared to other</p><p>way of getting slugs out of a shotgun, once</p><p>we have good fullbore sabots, we save on needing</p><p>bullet lube, gas checks, cheaper to get, no barrel</p><p>leading, much better BC in the same weight of slugs</p><p>compared to short fullbore ones....</p><p></p><p></p><p>Here are pictures of molds that can make cast </p><p>58cal slugs for the 12ga sabot we are working</p><p>on.There are many makers and brands and styles</p><p>of molds and weights available.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.gunownerstv.com_mold58_1.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> </p><p></p><p><img src="https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.gunownerstv.com_mold58_2.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Here is picture of a 10ga wadcup with a 730gr hollowbase</p><p>lead slug in on the left .In my heavy barrel 10ga smoothbore</p><p>I got 6" group at 50 yds. If we made hollow in the base</p><p>bigger it would be more accurate in smooth barrel.</p><p>The slug is .69cal one,measures .686"(from Lymam mold</p><p>like in picture), that Dixie Gunworks has. I bumped up the</p><p>diameter about .015" --wadcup is BPI VP100.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.gunownerstv.com_10ga690.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Here is picture of a nice 8ga double a fellow has.</p><p>Great looking gun..Ed</p><p></p><p><img src="https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.gunownerstv.com_wil8ga.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hubel585, post: 1786816"] I think we found good overall sabot design that will be the easiest to get made, easiest to get seals and whatever wads needed... Keeping design simple. It is same simple design as the ones pictured above but with slightly thicker base.It is fairly compact for more room for our slow powder loads, and when using slower powders, we don't need as much cushioning which makes the room for the powder. Larger charges of slower powder, better velocity with less case expansion, and more reloads possible. We hadn't tested soft lead 58cal slugs in 12ga sabots for penetration until now.. They did very well, two different 440 gr ones, going though 4 inch dried timber, pushing out some wood on the back. Shows they are just starting to expand.Should do great for deer and hogs. Going 2200 in long barrel NEF. Have pictures later. A 58cal slug at good speed is nothing to look down on. Many African hunters liked that caliber in their 577 doubles for big game. Slugs can be loaded faster, cast heavier, and cast harder for any need.And compared to other way of getting slugs out of a shotgun, once we have good fullbore sabots, we save on needing bullet lube, gas checks, cheaper to get, no barrel leading, much better BC in the same weight of slugs compared to short fullbore ones.... Here are pictures of molds that can make cast 58cal slugs for the 12ga sabot we are working on.There are many makers and brands and styles of molds and weights available. [IMG]https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.gunownerstv.com_mold58_1.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.gunownerstv.com_mold58_2.jpg[/IMG] Here is picture of a 10ga wadcup with a 730gr hollowbase lead slug in on the left .In my heavy barrel 10ga smoothbore I got 6" group at 50 yds. If we made hollow in the base bigger it would be more accurate in smooth barrel. The slug is .69cal one,measures .686"(from Lymam mold like in picture), that Dixie Gunworks has. I bumped up the diameter about .015" --wadcup is BPI VP100. [IMG]https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.gunownerstv.com_10ga690.jpg[/IMG] Here is picture of a nice 8ga double a fellow has. Great looking gun..Ed [IMG]https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.gunownerstv.com_wil8ga.jpg[/IMG] [/QUOTE]
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