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Message: <blockquote data-quote="okeydoke" data-source="post: 2908026" data-attributes="member: 41320">There's no subsonic rd for for the 22 mag. If shtf, a sound suppressor and night vision will be essential.  An AR15 with a Ciener .22lr conversion unit (30 shot box mag) would be a lot more of what will be needed. Subsonic 60 gr Aquila 22 ammo and 60 gr Nosler Partition softpoints for the 223. The 223 has 3x the power and range of the 22 mag. The 223  will pierce soft armor, while most 22 mag loads will not.  The military arsenals are full of 223, not .22 mag.  People have stashed billions of rds of 22lr, not 22 mag. A gun for which you have no ammo is a club. Ars can be had with luminous sights, chromed bores, dark, rust resistant finishes and sights that see over the sound suppressor. Not true of many, if any, 22 mags.22 mag has, at best 350 ft lbs, from a rifle barrel. that means it hits no harder than a pocket 9mm with the 1350 fps 100 gr Corbon jhp. The shorty 223, however, has the same 850 ft lbs of a 4" .44 mag revolver. Which would you rather bet your life upon?With 7.5" of 223 "can", the 60 gr Aquila .22 subsonic sounds like a BB gun (if you use your non-firing thumb to hold shut the bolt of the .22 conversion unit.) The sound suppressed .22 mag sounds just like the sound suppressed 223, audible at half a mile.Google for Ciener .22lr conversion units and search youtube for them, sound suppressors, etc.</blockquote>