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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JR777" data-source="post: 3970235" data-attributes="member: 45725">I'm talking about attempts to make commercial subsonic 223s. Every single one has resulted in squibs. They're highly dangerous.I can't speak for your handloads but it's a pretty big claim to say you've succeeded where commercial ammo manufacturers have failed, especially considering their ability to develop custom powders and put filler in the cases to fill up the left over dead space. If you've found the secret sauce to a safe 223 sub though you could be a rich man.</blockquote>