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<blockquote data-quote="Osage1978" data-source="post: 3680799" data-attributes="member: 46228">My buddy/gunsmith has a 1000 yard range but my old eyes &amp; optics limit me to around 600 yards. I&#039;ve shot at red castle back in the late 80&#039;s and early 90&#039;s as a young man, nice facility as I remember.On the match kings I&#039;ve always been a fan, they are probably my favorite bullet for paper punching in years past. When I worked for Thunder Ammo years ago and loaded up a ton of the Hornady match bullets for my 223 ( 68gr ) &amp; though accurate as you could ask for the thin jackets on those match bullets left me disappointed in performance on coyotes even with the heavier weight. The killed them but sometimes not as quickly as I preferred &amp; I assume the match kings probably use a similar construction with a j4 type jacket and soft lead core, since I&#039;m looking for a dual purpose bullet to use the same load for deer as well as coyote I&#039;d be afraid of it&#039;s ability to give quick humane kills on deer. I could be wrong, some say I was once but it&#039;s probably just rumor&nbsp;I was very hesitant to use the V-Max this year considering it&#039;s light construction but it&#039;s all I had &amp; I&#039;d seen some good results from others using within boundaries so I rolled the dice &amp; kept the range limited and the deer only went 15-20 feet though he acted like he wasn&#039;t hit until he dropped over deadWith the components being so hard to find I may not be able to be as selective as I would like however &amp; I won&#039;t have the rifle back until mid December</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Osage1978, post: 3680799, member: 46228"] My buddy/gunsmith has a 1000 yard range but my old eyes & optics limit me to around 600 yards. I've shot at red castle back in the late 80's and early 90's as a young man, nice facility as I remember. On the match kings I've always been a fan, they are probably my favorite bullet for paper punching in years past. When I worked for Thunder Ammo years ago and loaded up a ton of the Hornady match bullets for my 223 ( 68gr ) & though accurate as you could ask for the thin jackets on those match bullets left me disappointed in performance on coyotes even with the heavier weight. The killed them but sometimes not as quickly as I preferred & I assume the match kings probably use a similar construction with a j4 type jacket and soft lead core, since I'm looking for a dual purpose bullet to use the same load for deer as well as coyote I'd be afraid of it's ability to give quick humane kills on deer. I could be wrong, some say I was once but it's probably just rumor I was very hesitant to use the V-Max this year considering it's light construction but it's all I had & I'd seen some good results from others using within boundaries so I rolled the dice & kept the range limited and the deer only went 15-20 feet though he acted like he wasn't hit until he dropped over dead With the components being so hard to find I may not be able to be as selective as I would like however & I won't have the rifle back until mid December [/QUOTE]

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