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<blockquote data-quote="MadDawg" data-source="post: 1162132" data-attributes="member: 11627"><p>Mr Hawks has much of his work on the interwebz no need to scan. I didnt realize he wrote the offical history of the M14 and the 7.62x51.</p><p></p><p>Would like the TM# of the 'official' history that you cite. I cant find any references past a super truncated overview that has the military spending many years tested two cartridges and 'selecting' the 300 savage, but not really as it had to be lengthened.</p><p></p><p>Can tell you what the 'old guys' at the AMU said years ago and after a few beverages, that while the 300 savage is close, it didnt have the case cap for the review board. So 47mm was too small and 51 was seen as better. but they didnt get there with just two attempts, the 30/06 was reworked a dozen ways come sunday. The rifle went through a dozen different forms and the testers must have thought they had real job security before it was all said and done.</p><p></p><p>I suppose the 300 savage myth continues because it is a simple storyline. Can tell you this, so many cartridges have the .473 rim that almost any lineage can be mapped. If the savage 300 was all that and a bag of chips it would have been soooo much simplier to just adopt it. just why did the Army NOT select the savage if it was 'the parent'? Why was 3mm so imporant? If the savage was the parent why add 3mm? if its velocity was so great why not keep it as is?</p><p></p><p>Well you have your ideas and I have mine. Would like more proof than a oft repeated one line one the internet.</p><p></p><p>If you could send me the TM# I'd appreciate it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MadDawg, post: 1162132, member: 11627"] Mr Hawks has much of his work on the interwebz no need to scan. I didnt realize he wrote the offical history of the M14 and the 7.62x51. Would like the TM# of the 'official' history that you cite. I cant find any references past a super truncated overview that has the military spending many years tested two cartridges and 'selecting' the 300 savage, but not really as it had to be lengthened. Can tell you what the 'old guys' at the AMU said years ago and after a few beverages, that while the 300 savage is close, it didnt have the case cap for the review board. So 47mm was too small and 51 was seen as better. but they didnt get there with just two attempts, the 30/06 was reworked a dozen ways come sunday. The rifle went through a dozen different forms and the testers must have thought they had real job security before it was all said and done. I suppose the 300 savage myth continues because it is a simple storyline. Can tell you this, so many cartridges have the .473 rim that almost any lineage can be mapped. If the savage 300 was all that and a bag of chips it would have been soooo much simplier to just adopt it. just why did the Army NOT select the savage if it was 'the parent'? Why was 3mm so imporant? If the savage was the parent why add 3mm? if its velocity was so great why not keep it as is? Well you have your ideas and I have mine. Would like more proof than a oft repeated one line one the internet. If you could send me the TM# I'd appreciate it. [/QUOTE]
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