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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Oklahomabassin" data-source="post: 4195267" data-attributes="member: 1546">I see a lot of deer shot that don't bleed but are dead. I have a .243 that shoots the 95 grain Win XP very well. It expands pretty quickly inside the deer and rarely exits. If placed in the boiler room, doe rarely go more than 75-80 yards. If it its thick stuff it can make tracking difficult. I have trained dog that makes it no problem. I continue to use it because of the accuracy. I have a friend that uses a 110 grain VMax in his 6.8spc. It literally turns the inside to jelly but once again it doesn't exit and blood trail is pretty thin if any. Mature bucks can go 200 yards with a lot of lung damage. One lung hit bucks can live hours and even survive if its at the end of the lung.</blockquote>