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<blockquote data-quote="odie1" data-source="post: 1671210" data-attributes="member: 8829"><p>OK - maybe someone has seen this before.</p><p></p><p>I have loaded a long time, but have had something strange the last time I tried loading some 9mm.</p><p></p><p>As always, I have to pay very close attention setting up the dies when using cast bullets (for any caliber), as they are .001 over sized and sometimes will not drop easily in and out of a max cartridge gauge.</p><p></p><p>Long story, loaded a few hundred after carefully setting up the dies at the beginning, and while testing the loaded rounds, found several that would not even come close to falling in the max cartridge gauge, nor could I even force them in with considerable force from my big fat thumb.</p><p></p><p>Then noticed all the rounds that would not fit had the same head stamp.... 9mm PARA.</p><p></p><p>Pulled a couple of the bullets, ran the brass back through the sizing die, and it still would not drop into the cartridge gauge.</p><p></p><p>It seems the base, just above the the rim, which does not get fully pushed into the sizer due to the shell holder, measures about .005s greater that the max dimensions listed in the load book I have.</p><p></p><p>Now, I double checked and the load books I have list the 9mm Luger and the 9mm Parabellum as the same round, as I always thought it was. Several sites on the web even state "there is no difference, it is just two different names for the same round"</p><p></p><p>I guess the question I have is has anyone ever seen this before? Any good explanation? I thought maybe they were fired in a "non-supported" chamber, but all the cases I checked seemed exactly the same (not saying that rules out the non-support chamber, but I would think I would see a little variance), and I was measuring on the rim, not just above it where I would normally see the buldge.</p><p></p><p>Thoughts?</p><p></p><p>Odie1</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="odie1, post: 1671210, member: 8829"] OK - maybe someone has seen this before. I have loaded a long time, but have had something strange the last time I tried loading some 9mm. As always, I have to pay very close attention setting up the dies when using cast bullets (for any caliber), as they are .001 over sized and sometimes will not drop easily in and out of a max cartridge gauge. Long story, loaded a few hundred after carefully setting up the dies at the beginning, and while testing the loaded rounds, found several that would not even come close to falling in the max cartridge gauge, nor could I even force them in with considerable force from my big fat thumb. Then noticed all the rounds that would not fit had the same head stamp.... 9mm PARA. Pulled a couple of the bullets, ran the brass back through the sizing die, and it still would not drop into the cartridge gauge. It seems the base, just above the the rim, which does not get fully pushed into the sizer due to the shell holder, measures about .005s greater that the max dimensions listed in the load book I have. Now, I double checked and the load books I have list the 9mm Luger and the 9mm Parabellum as the same round, as I always thought it was. Several sites on the web even state "there is no difference, it is just two different names for the same round" I guess the question I have is has anyone ever seen this before? Any good explanation? I thought maybe they were fired in a "non-supported" chamber, but all the cases I checked seemed exactly the same (not saying that rules out the non-support chamber, but I would think I would see a little variance), and I was measuring on the rim, not just above it where I would normally see the buldge. Thoughts? Odie1 [/QUOTE]
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