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A completely reasonable way to deal with the new wave of open carry morons.....
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<blockquote data-quote="hrdware" data-source="post: 1879054" data-attributes="member: 24475"><p>Unless and until I do something illegal or looks like I might be about to do something illegal, the officer observes my actions. Innocent until proven guilty not guilty until I can convince him otherwise. No, I don't expect a special pass because I'm me and I don't think every officer should know me, I expect a pass because I am not doing anything illegal. It seems a lot of people here think being a law abiding citizen means doing everything an LEO tells you to do just to make their jobs easier, no matter if they have a right to ask you to do it or not. I respect our law enforcement community, but I also expect them to know the laws they are supposed to enforce and know that a particular action would cross that line and not do it.</p><p></p><p>I have never said I should be allowed to open carry anywhere I want (and I'm not saying you said I did), however I should not be be stopped and questioned by an officer for participating in a legal activity. What would happen if I called the police and said, "PersonX is driving down the street and it is making me nervous. They aren't swerving or speeding, but I'm scared they might try to run me over." Do you think an officer would respond quickly if at all? Would they go stop the vehicle I described and find out why the person was involved in a perfectly legal activity? Would they check to make sure the person had a license? Probably not because the supreme court has ruled against such things, so what makes open carry any different other than the tool being used.</p><p></p><p>I agree with you about being polite and showing respect towards others. It does make your day a whole lot easier. I believe I am generally polite to everyone I come in contact with and if the average citizen asks me about my open carry I will talk to them about it. If someone starts yelling at me over it, I'll simply turn around and walk away.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hrdware, post: 1879054, member: 24475"] Unless and until I do something illegal or looks like I might be about to do something illegal, the officer observes my actions. Innocent until proven guilty not guilty until I can convince him otherwise. No, I don't expect a special pass because I'm me and I don't think every officer should know me, I expect a pass because I am not doing anything illegal. It seems a lot of people here think being a law abiding citizen means doing everything an LEO tells you to do just to make their jobs easier, no matter if they have a right to ask you to do it or not. I respect our law enforcement community, but I also expect them to know the laws they are supposed to enforce and know that a particular action would cross that line and not do it. I have never said I should be allowed to open carry anywhere I want (and I'm not saying you said I did), however I should not be be stopped and questioned by an officer for participating in a legal activity. What would happen if I called the police and said, "PersonX is driving down the street and it is making me nervous. They aren't swerving or speeding, but I'm scared they might try to run me over." Do you think an officer would respond quickly if at all? Would they go stop the vehicle I described and find out why the person was involved in a perfectly legal activity? Would they check to make sure the person had a license? Probably not because the supreme court has ruled against such things, so what makes open carry any different other than the tool being used. I agree with you about being polite and showing respect towards others. It does make your day a whole lot easier. I believe I am generally polite to everyone I come in contact with and if the average citizen asks me about my open carry I will talk to them about it. If someone starts yelling at me over it, I'll simply turn around and walk away. [/QUOTE]
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