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Message: <blockquote data-quote="gillman7" data-source="post: 2056862" data-attributes="member: 2784"><p>So the one president that took the nation into civil war over the right of states to seceed from the union, warns about perverting the Constitution? It is funny how we deify certain presidents, and they are sometimes the biggest offenders. Kind of like the only difference between a traitor and a patriot is whether you are on the winning side.</p></blockquote><p></p>