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A Review of the S&W Model 681
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<blockquote data-quote="mtngunr" data-source="post: 4330627" data-attributes="member: 46104"><p>Thanks for the insight into agency armorer practices, neither of whom likely to spring for barrel vises and action wrenches except perhaps the most flush with funding. Ditto as the info on parts still available, and hopefully skill, in order to install parts not used on production guns for over a quarter of a century. I still wonder if the original idea behind the beater bar was SOP barrel turning to regulate fixed sight guns. I like the idea as force applied unlikely to warp frames, especially with the broomstick...</p><p></p><p>As for the recall on what were standard S&W bushings and hammer noses as used in the L-frame, I will only point out that no other magnum from whatever vintage and which used the exact same parts was ever mentioned, and if unsafe in the L-frame were unsafe in the other guns. S&W was stumped over what was a PR disaster for their law enforcement sales, had an outsider look at it and who theorized that perhaps the angle at which the (floating!) nose entered the bushing hole allowed the primer to push the nose back out, which seems a tall order on a nose which moves always, while it later became clear light bullet ammo from a major LE sales supplier was at fault in at least many cases. If the gun and ammo combo is not cratering, then why send the gun in to be altered to a more easily broken nose? I think S&W was just desperate enough to announce a solution to the mystery, is the why of the recall. Of whatever make/era, I know of guns and ammo lot combos which crater and bind, and never a recall before or since on the guns.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mtngunr, post: 4330627, member: 46104"] Thanks for the insight into agency armorer practices, neither of whom likely to spring for barrel vises and action wrenches except perhaps the most flush with funding. Ditto as the info on parts still available, and hopefully skill, in order to install parts not used on production guns for over a quarter of a century. I still wonder if the original idea behind the beater bar was SOP barrel turning to regulate fixed sight guns. I like the idea as force applied unlikely to warp frames, especially with the broomstick... As for the recall on what were standard S&W bushings and hammer noses as used in the L-frame, I will only point out that no other magnum from whatever vintage and which used the exact same parts was ever mentioned, and if unsafe in the L-frame were unsafe in the other guns. S&W was stumped over what was a PR disaster for their law enforcement sales, had an outsider look at it and who theorized that perhaps the angle at which the (floating!) nose entered the bushing hole allowed the primer to push the nose back out, which seems a tall order on a nose which moves always, while it later became clear light bullet ammo from a major LE sales supplier was at fault in at least many cases. If the gun and ammo combo is not cratering, then why send the gun in to be altered to a more easily broken nose? I think S&W was just desperate enough to announce a solution to the mystery, is the why of the recall. Of whatever make/era, I know of guns and ammo lot combos which crater and bind, and never a recall before or since on the guns. [/QUOTE]
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