Actual facts needed about storm shelters being sucked out of the ground/doors failing

[rr2008]

Real honest to God facts.
http://www.tornadostormshelters.com/Shelter.htm

Are you on the correct forum? You expect facts from us liars?!

Read the post where one of the members mentioned doors missing from most of the shelters, including the one he occupied, but there was no sucking like in the movie (ok it's a movie and we know not to believe everything we see in movies). I am certainly glad to know that the doors may not be a critical component. My basement shelter, though it has a slab roof has just a normal stairway down and hollow core door. When this took some water the insurance company sent an engineer out to look at the shelter, his comment to me was it was built like a bomb shelter. Hope it will be safe enough for the weather we get around here.

 

[papam05]

Interesting question. I have a concrete in-ground with a steel door. If I were a welder, I might weld a eye on the inside of my door so I could hook a block and tackle to it. I've got lifting rings in the floor that I could easily use for a tie-down anchor.

I like this idea going to do it

 

[jsl_pt]

http://m.newson6.com/Story.aspx?story=22441328&catId=236726



The massive storm that hit central Oklahoma last week has shined a light on safe rooms and storm shelters.
More than 3,000 shelters are registered in the city of Moore, and the city says everyone who took shelter inside one of them survived the storm.
The violent path of the tornado can be seen everywhere in the Moore neighborhood. Mindy Chaddock and family made it through the over 200-mile-an-hour winds by huddling in a storm shelter.
"People describe it as a train feeling--it wasn't anything like that. I mean, the whole thing was shaking," Chaddock said.
The one that saved her family is a below ground shelter; the most common kind of shelter in the neighborhood.
"This storm--I don't see how you can survive in a bathtub or a closet, because, even in a shelter, we were scared for our life. That's how strong it was," Chaddock said.
"We're looking, right now, for anything that was used to survive the tornado," said Tom Bennett.
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Bennett is a News On 6 weather producer, as well as president of Jim Giles Safe Rooms and past president of the National Storm Shelter Association or NSSA.
Members of that organization have been surveying in Moore, looking at the safe rooms and storm shelters to see how they performed during the tornado.
Complete Coverage: May 2013 Tornado Outbreak
Bennett said they haven't seen a case, yet, of either an above ground or below ground shelter failing in the storm.
Bennett said while there is some minor damage to some of the above ground shelters, like the turbines flying off or the handles being bent, there's nothing that would lead to tragedy.
"We're not seeing anything here that caused injury or death. If you were in a safe room, whether it was above ground or below ground, you survived the tornado," Bennett said.
Chaddock said she's thankful to the Chickasaw tribe for installing the shelter for her grandmother and hopes everyone knows how important shelters are, no matter the cost.
"It's 100 percent worth it. I mean, if you value your life and you value your children's life, it's 100 percent worth it," she said.
Wind engineers from Texas Tech University are also in Moore. They're reporting to FEMA about what the wind did to all of the structures--the buildings, the schools, even the storm shelters.

 

[chuter]

Channel 4 in OKC is having a segment tonight at 10:00 on shelters and how the did in the storm.

 

[Okie4570]

Channel 4 in OKC is having a segment tonight at 10:00 on shelters and how the did in the storm.

Watched it, it was free advertising for an underground shelter company and an above ground company. They said that they both meet FEMA requirements........take your pick. They didn't really compare the two.

 

[chuter]

Watched it, it was free advertising for an underground shelter company and an above ground company. They said that they both meet FEMA requirements........take your pick. They didn't really compare the two.

Yeah, it was a pretty useless report.

 

[skycitadel]

News ok article about shelters ...above ground shelters and safe rooms survived.

http://newsok.com/oklahoma-tornadoes-aboveground-shelters-stood-up-in-face-of-ef5-moore-tornado/article/3840636

also has a report about doors coming loose on an underground shelter

 

[twoguns?]

it's a TAX. Serves only to fill city coffers and pay a gooberment employee salary.

Or its to make sure they are installed!.......and correctly.
and to make sure 1st responders ,rescue teams, know where to look .

.Its like the hail storm a couple years ago, roofers Swamped this area, unfortunately roofing is not regulated .
There are Many roofs that are not installed correctly , vent to heating and water heaters ...not put back correctly, or at all.
Its not always about filling the city"coffers", sometimes its about safety and protecting the people that just dont know.
A tax? or knowledge thats paid for to protect others?

.Its called a job.

 

[ronny]

Here's a typical cellar in the great little town of Wilson. It's been there for between 85-100 years and the door has never been ripped off. The current occupants (a dozen spiders, two water moccasins, a half-dozen centipedes and scorpions too numerous to count) seemed to be quite content. The moccasins seemed happiest, probably because of the 6 inches of water in the floor.

Clearly, a sheet iron door with 2x4 frame is sufficient. The two posts and crossbeam on the left once had a pulley and rope/cable arrangement with a heavy weight (concrete block or an old plow blade) which made it easy to open the heavy door. Also made it easier for the tornado to open the door.

 

[Foghorn]

Just to update, saw no failures last night.