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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tanis143" data-source="post: 3368023" data-attributes="member: 43724">And does this change the fact that the McMichaels had no right to stop and detain Arbery? Again, you are bringing up Arbery's past where it has no bearing in this case. Its this simple: Did the McMichaels have a legal footing to stop and detain with implied force? If the answer is yes, then they will be cleared. If the answer is no, then they are directly responsible for Arbery's death. To quote Metallica, nothing else matters. Bringing up anything from Arbery's past does nothing to change the answer to that question. Trying to use it to justify the actions of the McMichaels is erroneous. When a perp fights a cop who was trying to detain him for questioning, you bet I'm going to be on the cops side, regardless of the color of both. When a citizen thinks they are the cops and can detain people without the proper authority to, then they are directly responsible for anything that happens. Its that simple.  In this case we have not only the original police report, footage from the house cam that shows Arbery didn't even commit trespass, a misdemeanor, much less a felony, but it shows Arbery trying to avoid the McMichaels and only engaged when Travis McMichael tried to approach him with a firearm presented. As I, and several others, have said, unless new evidence is presented that shows either McMichael had witnessed or had direct knowledge that Arbery committed a felony, the McMichaels are at fault. And that is what will be tried in court.</blockquote>

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