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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dale00" data-source="post: 1374764" data-attributes="member: 688">I hear a lot of "wise ones" telling us its not a big deal to be searched. But I don't see where any of them say they have had their genitals groped. Are they in denial that this is being done? If it happens to some else or someone else's child while you slip by I guess it doesn't count. So I guess they'll support stopping vehicles on the highway randomly for the same pat downs. And if there is a body cavity bomber then they'll be ok with body cavity searches. Maybe the wise ones will tell me that those things will never happen. One premise of the wise ones is that TSA screening is effective. Where is the proof of this? The screening methods always change after a new type of attack and by then the terrorist planners have moved on to a different tactic. Am I wrong about this? I only recall one shoe bomber and one underwear bomber. To the best of my knowledge TSA has not caught one terrorist. The reasonable alternative is the Israeli screening method of profiling certain groups for intense scrutiny and targeting individuals with suspicious behaviors. TSA does no profiling and only a tiny amount of the behavior monitoring that the Israelis do.  TSA primarily looks for devices on a few random people. This method seems to be a very poor deterrent to a determined terrorist. They're all suicidal fanatics so why should they care that they might get caught? But of course there are ways to deny and dance around this as well.</blockquote>

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