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<blockquote data-quote="hrdware" data-source="post: 1899909" data-attributes="member: 24475"><p>Check out the court case Terry v. Ohio. A driver was stopped for the sole purpose to see if they had a drivers license. The supreme court ruled that without Reasonable Articulable Suspicion (RAS) that a crime had been committed, or was about to be committed, officers could not check someone for their papers. It is a violation of the 4th amendment to search and seize someones ID to make sure they are legal without some kind of suspicion of a crime.</p><p></p><p>I'm sure you wouldn't be happy if an officer just decided to relieve you of your firearm for no reason, same thing. And even if they ask for it and you show it to them (they didn't search you for it or take it by force) it still falls under the search and seizure clause because there are legal repercussions if you don't show it to them.</p><p></p><p>If I am walking down the street and an officer stops me, I am not required to show ID, but if I open carry, I now have to(according to state law that will become effective Nov 1). The presence of a firearm does not produce reasonable suspicion of a crime so without that suspicion of a crime what makes it OK for an officer to violate my rights?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hrdware, post: 1899909, member: 24475"] Check out the court case Terry v. Ohio. A driver was stopped for the sole purpose to see if they had a drivers license. The supreme court ruled that without Reasonable Articulable Suspicion (RAS) that a crime had been committed, or was about to be committed, officers could not check someone for their papers. It is a violation of the 4th amendment to search and seize someones ID to make sure they are legal without some kind of suspicion of a crime. I'm sure you wouldn't be happy if an officer just decided to relieve you of your firearm for no reason, same thing. And even if they ask for it and you show it to them (they didn't search you for it or take it by force) it still falls under the search and seizure clause because there are legal repercussions if you don't show it to them. If I am walking down the street and an officer stops me, I am not required to show ID, but if I open carry, I now have to(according to state law that will become effective Nov 1). The presence of a firearm does not produce reasonable suspicion of a crime so without that suspicion of a crime what makes it OK for an officer to violate my rights? [/QUOTE]
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