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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by RickN, Jan 10, 2021.

  1. Rez Exelon

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    Shhhhhhh. He's an expert. We mere mortals can't comprehend why someone would want to hit themselves with the ban hammer.
     
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    No grasshopper. It is not. You are not comprehending "intent".

    Let me try to dumb this down for you.

    There are over 31 flavors of ice cream. But not all ice cream tastes the same.


    YouAreRetarded.jpg
     
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    No, basicaly I'm done with FB and I wouldnt care if I got banned just to see if they would or sorta push the envelope.
    Gotta problem with anything?
     
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    Better be careful sugar --- mods are watching for people dropping insults like that. And it always kind of brings shame upon the person when you have to results to such responses.

    Intent doesn't matter. It just plain doesn't. If I'm at the range, think my gun is clear and have an accidental discharge that kills someone, does my intent matter? No. This board is full of people that claim that there is no excuse for intent on infringement of the 2A and the same is true on speech. It's censored or it's not. Whether there is intent driving the censorship is not the question. That's a separate exercise in asking "are we okay with this censorship".
     
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    Here is Amazon's response to Parlor's TRO request, in case anyone is interesting, while the first paragraph lays it out pretty plainly, the four page is a list of examples of parlor posts that amazon says supports it's views that Parlor violated the terms of their hosting agreement by failing to moderate content that advocated for illegal activities.

    I don't know how many of these i can even post here as an example, but “After the firing squads are done with the politicians the teachers are next" might be one of the more tame ones. If a mod feels this is too much then you can remove it or i can edit the post.

    Here is the opening to the response:
     
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    You are 100% correct. I’ll fix that in a bit.
     
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    OMG! I might be "shamed" for talking down to you?!? I ... I don't know how I would be able to cope with such a heavy stone upon my shoulders.

    You are wrong (still). I am not and have not argued that censorship is not censorship or to your other non sequitur examples that infringement is not infringement. BUT there are different reasons/objectives for censoring speech.

    Should one be allowed to falsely claim “FIRE” in a crowded theatre, or should they be censored and not allowed to do such?

    With that, you don’t get the intent for censorship. The objective of the mods to (gasp) censor posts is to support civil discourse. The intent for the left to censor the right is to limit thought to only their political convenience.

    To argue as you have that we live in a dichotomous world where "it is or isn't", is puerile at best. It’s censorship or not censorship. It’s infringement or it is not infringement. Apples are not oranges, genius.
     
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    Still not reading I see. I wonder if they can add a books on tape reply option to help eventually. You're merging two questions. If something IS or IS NOT censorship is question 1. Whether that censorship is ACCEPTABLE or NOT ACCEPTABLE is the second question.

    Banning someone from yelling "FIRE" in a crowed theatre, like it or not, IS censoring them. But we as a society have determined that in that case, it's an ACCEPTABLE censorship. Your argument of intent only factors into the question of acceptability. Jeepers, this is not all that hard.

    And I don't really care if you are shamed or not. I just think it'd be funny if your post was deemed to be not acceptable and was therefore censored by the mods despite your intent.
     
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    You are not bright enough to understand but you made my point. It's not that censorship is censorship as you continually try to frame this argument to be BUT that there is a reason for such.

    You stated ...

    And I answered that there are reasons (like not yelling “FIRE!” in a crowded theatre) for such. The mods here do such to maintain civil discourse. On the flip side, there is censorship for political convenience that only the left, the CCP, DPRK and a handful of living Nazis think is OK.

    Then you went off on your non sequitur bender on “infringement is infringement” to reframe this argument to what it is not. Try to focus.

    Are you wearing a ball gag which prohibits your from moving your lips to read? Don’t even want to speculate how in the wide world of sports you came up with that one. Has nothing to do with “acceptability”. Go back and reread my comments ... and take the ball gag out.

    Sounds like you need a tissue and a hug.
     
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    Their response is on par with David Berkowitz saying a dog told him to do it.
     
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