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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dale00" data-source="post: 3002043" data-attributes="member: 688">I cannot see how you have addressed any of the points I have already raised except from a very narrow point of view. Others have gone unaddressed.  It seems that implicit in your outlook and that of the researchers is the idea that current gun ownership patterns and attitudes should be molded by laws, propaganda (PSA's, top down education?) and so forth and for the benefit of society. This is the skewed picture with which I disagree in addition to the points I have already raised. Gun ownership and the right to self defense are basic human rights. As such they are not amenable to infringements. Certainly there is a need for better gun safety (voluntary efforts are an excellent approach in this area) but you cannot impose such things without infringing rights. While the study does not advocate infringements it provides tools for Anti's to better attempt to impose new infringements.</blockquote>