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<blockquote data-quote="wawazat" data-source="post: 3573949" data-attributes="member: 35603">This reminds me of something my grandfather who grew up deep in SE OK.&nbsp; &quot;If you ever decide to break the law, do it alone.&nbsp; That is the only way a secret can be kept.&nbsp; If you absolutely cannot stand it and HAVE to tell someone, tell your dog.&nbsp; Then promptly walk him out back and shoot him.&nbsp; That is the ONLY way to keep a secret.&quot;&nbsp; Haha.&nbsp; My wife was raised in a much more innocent family and that little anecdote really threw her for a loop the first time she heard it.&nbsp; I decided I like my dog, so I just don&#039;t do things that require that level of secrecy.It depends on your plan.&nbsp; Id say for true sustainability, you could get by on as little as 10 acres if you are raising your own beef.&nbsp; Half that if you are ok with just chicken and some pork.&nbsp; That is plenty of room to grow your own veggies, have a couple of wells, and some room to maintain a lineage of meat producing 4 legged critters.&nbsp; If you are wanting to live off wild game, you will need a fair amount more to be able to pursue the game without getting into someone else&#039;s land.&nbsp; The plus side to 5 acres is that monitoring borders would be simpler and is plenty close to tie in security and be able to watch everything from your living room with buried cat6 cable.&nbsp; The downside is how little breathing room there is before someone is on your doorstep so to speak.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="wawazat, post: 3573949, member: 35603"] This reminds me of something my grandfather who grew up deep in SE OK. "If you ever decide to break the law, do it alone. That is the only way a secret can be kept. If you absolutely cannot stand it and HAVE to tell someone, tell your dog. Then promptly walk him out back and shoot him. That is the ONLY way to keep a secret." Haha. My wife was raised in a much more innocent family and that little anecdote really threw her for a loop the first time she heard it. I decided I like my dog, so I just don't do things that require that level of secrecy. It depends on your plan. Id say for true sustainability, you could get by on as little as 10 acres if you are raising your own beef. Half that if you are ok with just chicken and some pork. That is plenty of room to grow your own veggies, have a couple of wells, and some room to maintain a lineage of meat producing 4 legged critters. If you are wanting to live off wild game, you will need a fair amount more to be able to pursue the game without getting into someone else's land. The plus side to 5 acres is that monitoring borders would be simpler and is plenty close to tie in security and be able to watch everything from your living room with buried cat6 cable. The downside is how little breathing room there is before someone is on your doorstep so to speak. [/QUOTE]

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