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<blockquote data-quote="abajaj11" data-source="post: 2096335" data-attributes="member: 3553"><p>Thinking they will likely lose the current offensive to disarm America, the anti 2As, along with the anti in chief, are now trying a different tactic. </p><p></p><p><em>First, we need to think through how any kind of mandated behaviour with a firearm will lead to firearm registration</em>. For example, if Congress <strong>mandates that guns must be stored a certain way</strong>....well the <strong>only way to monitor</strong> if that law is being followed <strong>is for the feds to know who owns what</strong>.....</p><p></p><p>Another example, if Congress makes it a crime for failure to report if a gun has been stolen, then again, the only way to monitor that people are reporting is to know who owned that gun in the first place! See: <a href="http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=701657" target="_blank">http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=701657</a></p><p></p><p>In general, <strong>any kind of mandated behaviour with a firearms will require registration so the feds can monitor if the behaviour is being done or not. </strong></p><p></p><p>Until the recent past, the center for disease control (CDC) was banned from doing any gun control related research, because any money given to them by Congress explicitly had this string attached to it: <em>no gun control related research</em>. This is because public money should not be used to fund politically motivated research. </p><p></p><p><strong>Our anti 2Aer in chief has now decided to direct the CDC to do research related to gun violence.</strong>.. offering the argument that he is not asking them to do gun control related research, but to seek ways to reduce gun violence. </p><p>see: <a href="http://vitals.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/16/16532333-obama-plan-eases-freeze-on-cdc-gun-violence-research?lite" target="_blank">http://vitals.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/16/16532333-obama-plan-eases-freeze-on-cdc-gun-violence-research?lite</a></p><p></p><p>The left is offering the argument that this is much like how "cars have become safer "or "pools have become safer" .Of course pools and cars are not guaranteed by the second amendment, and have not been the target of seizures historically after being registered. Gun-owners have been the target in all cases of registration, ultimately. </p><p></p><p>The left is bad mouthing the NRA and GOA for stopping CDC from doing "scientific research that can make us all safer". See: <a href="http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2012/12/gun_violence_research_nra_and_congress_blocked_gun_control_studies_at_cdc.html" target="_blank">http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2012/12/gun_violence_research_nra_and_congress_blocked_gun_control_studies_at_cdc.html</a></p><p></p><p>Here is what I think they want. They want studies from established lefty researchers that show that certain gun related activities cause deaths. My guess is they will pick storage. Check this link out to see where this is headed:</p><p><a href="http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/08/11/public-health-experts-reportedly-targeting-gun-violence-as-social-disease/" target="_blank">http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/08/11/public-health-experts-reportedly-targeting-gun-violence-as-social-disease/</a></p><p></p><p><strong>Their next step will be to push for Congress to pass mandated laws regarding this activity, for example, mandates on how guns should be stored.</strong> </p><p></p><p>I also think they are hoping these studies will come out over the next few years, and at some point, they will get a happy trinity like they had in 2008-2010, with a lefty POTUS, House and Senate. </p><p>At that point, they will pass a "common sense storage" law... which will lead to defacto registration, as described above. </p><p></p><p>This also explains why the lefty news media has been told to start talking about "gun safety" as opposed to "gun control". </p><p></p><p>This week when I call my senators and congressman, I am planning to discuss his issue with their aides. </p><p>We need to block all attempts to bypass Congress's blocks on CDC gun related research. If necessary, <strong>Congress should defund CDC till they comply</strong>. This is dangerous behaviour that needs to be nipped in the bud now. </p><p><img src="/images/smilies/smile.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="abajaj11, post: 2096335, member: 3553"] Thinking they will likely lose the current offensive to disarm America, the anti 2As, along with the anti in chief, are now trying a different tactic. [I]First, we need to think through how any kind of mandated behaviour with a firearm will lead to firearm registration[/I]. For example, if Congress [B]mandates that guns must be stored a certain way[/B]....well the [B]only way to monitor[/B] if that law is being followed [B]is for the feds to know who owns what[/B]..... Another example, if Congress makes it a crime for failure to report if a gun has been stolen, then again, the only way to monitor that people are reporting is to know who owned that gun in the first place! See: [url]http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=701657[/url] In general, [B]any kind of mandated behaviour with a firearms will require registration so the feds can monitor if the behaviour is being done or not. [/B] Until the recent past, the center for disease control (CDC) was banned from doing any gun control related research, because any money given to them by Congress explicitly had this string attached to it: [I]no gun control related research[/I]. This is because public money should not be used to fund politically motivated research. [B]Our anti 2Aer in chief has now decided to direct the CDC to do research related to gun violence.[/B].. offering the argument that he is not asking them to do gun control related research, but to seek ways to reduce gun violence. see: [url]http://vitals.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/16/16532333-obama-plan-eases-freeze-on-cdc-gun-violence-research?lite[/url] The left is offering the argument that this is much like how "cars have become safer "or "pools have become safer" .Of course pools and cars are not guaranteed by the second amendment, and have not been the target of seizures historically after being registered. Gun-owners have been the target in all cases of registration, ultimately. The left is bad mouthing the NRA and GOA for stopping CDC from doing "scientific research that can make us all safer". See: [url]http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2012/12/gun_violence_research_nra_and_congress_blocked_gun_control_studies_at_cdc.html[/url] Here is what I think they want. They want studies from established lefty researchers that show that certain gun related activities cause deaths. My guess is they will pick storage. Check this link out to see where this is headed: [url]http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/08/11/public-health-experts-reportedly-targeting-gun-violence-as-social-disease/[/url] [B]Their next step will be to push for Congress to pass mandated laws regarding this activity, for example, mandates on how guns should be stored.[/B] I also think they are hoping these studies will come out over the next few years, and at some point, they will get a happy trinity like they had in 2008-2010, with a lefty POTUS, House and Senate. At that point, they will pass a "common sense storage" law... which will lead to defacto registration, as described above. This also explains why the lefty news media has been told to start talking about "gun safety" as opposed to "gun control". This week when I call my senators and congressman, I am planning to discuss his issue with their aides. We need to block all attempts to bypass Congress's blocks on CDC gun related research. If necessary, [B]Congress should defund CDC till they comply[/B]. This is dangerous behaviour that needs to be nipped in the bud now. :) [/QUOTE]
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