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<blockquote data-quote="geezer77" data-source="post: 4113137" data-attributes="member: 49872"><p>I got a closer look at some more details on the Liberty Safe "breach of privacy" story this morning, via this post on Twitter by Liberty management:</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=twitter]1699606598669459680[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p>As best I can see, Liberty was wrong to (a) keep the list to start with (wow, if hacked, how much would that list be worth on the dark web?), and (b) to give up a particular customer's info to the Feds without stronger legal reason (a specific court order).</p><p></p><p>I honestly don't understand why Liberty didn't simply assign the same simple entry combo to ALL of their consumer safes, such as "123456" or something similar, like makers of WiFi routers routinely assign "password" or "1234" to all of their devices and warn the buyer to CHANGE IT before connecting to the internet. Changing digital combo lock passwords is easy, and there are usually very clear instructions provided with the safe on how to do it.</p><p></p><p>However, it looks as if the management has immediately stepped up and acknowledged the mistake, and has done the right and sensible thing (now that the horse is out of the barn!). Current registered Liberty owners can opt out of the list and have their data deleted. Then, like Apple with iPhones, if the feds want in, Liberty is legally justified in saying they cannot comply, period.</p><p></p><p>The important takeaway is the Liberty combo list is the original RANDOM FACTORY-ASSIGNED digital combination, installed at the factory in that specific safe's (and ONLY that safe's) lock. If the new owner didn't immediately change that combination to one of his own choosing, then as far as I'm concerned, shame on his dumb a**. I'm looking at you, Mr. FFL.</p><p></p><p>I admit when I first heard this story, I thought Liberty was putting a "back door" combo into every lock, separate and hidden from the safe's buyer. THAT would be an explosively serious situation. But that's clearly not the case here, thank goodness.</p><p></p><p>I happen to use Cannon, but Liberty make great safes too. If you own one, make sure you're not still using the "factory" combination!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="geezer77, post: 4113137, member: 49872"] I got a closer look at some more details on the Liberty Safe "breach of privacy" story this morning, via this post on Twitter by Liberty management: [MEDIA=twitter]1699606598669459680[/MEDIA] As best I can see, Liberty was wrong to (a) keep the list to start with (wow, if hacked, how much would that list be worth on the dark web?), and (b) to give up a particular customer's info to the Feds without stronger legal reason (a specific court order). I honestly don't understand why Liberty didn't simply assign the same simple entry combo to ALL of their consumer safes, such as "123456" or something similar, like makers of WiFi routers routinely assign "password" or "1234" to all of their devices and warn the buyer to CHANGE IT before connecting to the internet. Changing digital combo lock passwords is easy, and there are usually very clear instructions provided with the safe on how to do it. However, it looks as if the management has immediately stepped up and acknowledged the mistake, and has done the right and sensible thing (now that the horse is out of the barn!). Current registered Liberty owners can opt out of the list and have their data deleted. Then, like Apple with iPhones, if the feds want in, Liberty is legally justified in saying they cannot comply, period. The important takeaway is the Liberty combo list is the original RANDOM FACTORY-ASSIGNED digital combination, installed at the factory in that specific safe's (and ONLY that safe's) lock. If the new owner didn't immediately change that combination to one of his own choosing, then as far as I'm concerned, shame on his dumb a**. I'm looking at you, Mr. FFL. I admit when I first heard this story, I thought Liberty was putting a "back door" combo into every lock, separate and hidden from the safe's buyer. THAT would be an explosively serious situation. But that's clearly not the case here, thank goodness. I happen to use Cannon, but Liberty make great safes too. If you own one, make sure you're not still using the "factory" combination! [/QUOTE]
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