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<blockquote data-quote="SoonerATC" data-source="post: 1939454" data-attributes="member: 9576"><p>Hey man,</p><p></p><p>Glad to see another pilot on the board. I am currently in the aviation program at OU. I earned my private in Dec 2010, Instrument in Dec 2011, Commercial Single engine in May 2012, and Com'l Multi in August of this year. I'm currently saving up for my CFI and will be doing that this coming spring.</p><p></p><p>I already had a degree from OU about 8 years ago, but since I was financing my flying with the Post-9/11 GI Bill, it was actually more beneficial for me at the time to pursue the whole degree, rather than just get the ratings like you are considering. Trust me, having already been through college once, I was not keen on having to sit through all kinds of random classes (aviation history, human resource management, etc) just to get my pilot certificates and ratings. As I said though, it was more beneficial for me at the time financially to pursue the whole degree rather than just the ratings, ironic as that might sound. I think the VA has since changed the rules so you don't have to pursue a degree program to get benefits, but I was already so far along I figured I might as well finish it out. </p><p></p><p>I don't know how familiar you are with the flight training process, but OU's aviation program is actually Part 141, which has benefits over doing your training Part 61 (which would be essentially going to your local FBO and getting flight instruction from Joe Smith CFI). In a nutshell, Part 141 is more structured than Part 61 training, so the FAA therefore believes you are likely to learn more in a less amount of time. For the record, Oklahoma Aviation is also Part 141. AirOne doesn't mention anything on their website, so I can only assume they are Part 61, since most 141 schools are quick to let you know. On a sidenote, you can also <u>only</u> use GI Bill benefits at a Part 141 school (not sure if that affects you at all).</p><p></p><p>I don't have experience with either Oklahoma Aviation or AirOne, but I have been doing some pretty hefty research lately on the best place to rent an airplane from since I'm pretty much in time building mode now that I've got my major certificates and ratings. Oklahoma Aviation has some very nice airplanes, but they also charge a LOT to rent them. You can expect your training to cost a good amount more if you train there, but that's not to say the training will not be worth it. I've met Tyler Nikkel and Chris Carr before (two of their other CFIs) and both of them seem to be pretty stand up guys. </p><p></p><p>I don't know a thing about AirOne except that their airplane rental prices are a little more reasonable. </p><p></p><p>You don't have to be enrolled in the degree program to do flight training at OU. They offer all of their flight courses non-credit as well, and they are very reasonable compared to the cost of other flight training options. For example, to get your private ticket at AirOne in a C-152, they estimate it will cost you $8,999. To do your training in a C-172 (little more power and performance), they estimate it'll cost $9,999. Chickasha Wings estimates your private will cost you $6,434 when doing your training in a C-150. </p><p></p><p>OU on the other hand, quotes $6,315 for your private ticket when using their Piper Warriors. OU replaced their entire fleet in 2005, so the airplanes are only about 7 years old, GPS equipped, leather interiors. Really a very nice airplane to train in. Additionally, OU does all of their checkrides in-house, which can save you anywhere from $200-$300 that you would have to pay a Designated Pilot Examiner at another school. </p><p></p><p>OU offers everything from Private through Commercial Multi/Instrument.</p><p></p><p>At OU, they will schedule you for 3 hard slots during the week (after you submit your availability). This is obviously less flexible than if you were to train somewhere else at your own convenience, but that goes back to the Part 141 "more structured training" issue. </p><p></p><p>I recommend you check us out. <a href="http://aviation.ou.edu/noncredit_courses.html" target="_blank">http://aviation.ou.edu/noncredit_courses.html</a>. Feel free to PM me if you have any other questions about training in general, or OU in particular. I'll be glad to help. You can also email our Chief Flight Instructor, Dave McClurkin (davemcclurkin@ou.edu).</p><p></p><p>Clear skies,</p><p>SoonerATC</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SoonerATC, post: 1939454, member: 9576"] Hey man, Glad to see another pilot on the board. I am currently in the aviation program at OU. I earned my private in Dec 2010, Instrument in Dec 2011, Commercial Single engine in May 2012, and Com'l Multi in August of this year. I'm currently saving up for my CFI and will be doing that this coming spring. I already had a degree from OU about 8 years ago, but since I was financing my flying with the Post-9/11 GI Bill, it was actually more beneficial for me at the time to pursue the whole degree, rather than just get the ratings like you are considering. Trust me, having already been through college once, I was not keen on having to sit through all kinds of random classes (aviation history, human resource management, etc) just to get my pilot certificates and ratings. As I said though, it was more beneficial for me at the time financially to pursue the whole degree rather than just the ratings, ironic as that might sound. I think the VA has since changed the rules so you don't have to pursue a degree program to get benefits, but I was already so far along I figured I might as well finish it out. I don't know how familiar you are with the flight training process, but OU's aviation program is actually Part 141, which has benefits over doing your training Part 61 (which would be essentially going to your local FBO and getting flight instruction from Joe Smith CFI). In a nutshell, Part 141 is more structured than Part 61 training, so the FAA therefore believes you are likely to learn more in a less amount of time. For the record, Oklahoma Aviation is also Part 141. AirOne doesn't mention anything on their website, so I can only assume they are Part 61, since most 141 schools are quick to let you know. On a sidenote, you can also [U]only[/U] use GI Bill benefits at a Part 141 school (not sure if that affects you at all). I don't have experience with either Oklahoma Aviation or AirOne, but I have been doing some pretty hefty research lately on the best place to rent an airplane from since I'm pretty much in time building mode now that I've got my major certificates and ratings. Oklahoma Aviation has some very nice airplanes, but they also charge a LOT to rent them. You can expect your training to cost a good amount more if you train there, but that's not to say the training will not be worth it. I've met Tyler Nikkel and Chris Carr before (two of their other CFIs) and both of them seem to be pretty stand up guys. I don't know a thing about AirOne except that their airplane rental prices are a little more reasonable. You don't have to be enrolled in the degree program to do flight training at OU. They offer all of their flight courses non-credit as well, and they are very reasonable compared to the cost of other flight training options. For example, to get your private ticket at AirOne in a C-152, they estimate it will cost you $8,999. To do your training in a C-172 (little more power and performance), they estimate it'll cost $9,999. Chickasha Wings estimates your private will cost you $6,434 when doing your training in a C-150. OU on the other hand, quotes $6,315 for your private ticket when using their Piper Warriors. OU replaced their entire fleet in 2005, so the airplanes are only about 7 years old, GPS equipped, leather interiors. Really a very nice airplane to train in. Additionally, OU does all of their checkrides in-house, which can save you anywhere from $200-$300 that you would have to pay a Designated Pilot Examiner at another school. OU offers everything from Private through Commercial Multi/Instrument. At OU, they will schedule you for 3 hard slots during the week (after you submit your availability). This is obviously less flexible than if you were to train somewhere else at your own convenience, but that goes back to the Part 141 "more structured training" issue. I recommend you check us out. [url]http://aviation.ou.edu/noncredit_courses.html[/url]. Feel free to PM me if you have any other questions about training in general, or OU in particular. I'll be glad to help. You can also email our Chief Flight Instructor, Dave McClurkin (davemcclurkin@ou.edu). Clear skies, SoonerATC [/QUOTE]
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