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<blockquote data-quote="MadDawg" data-source="post: 1182086" data-attributes="member: 11627"><p>Ridge-</p><p>I have found Belief best for your religion. I never liked being told in the secular world you either believe or you dont.</p><p></p><p>It would be nice if examples could be given as things like busing are not the court's idea but the state's idea.</p><p></p><p>There is a great debate on if the Courts lean toward one philosophy or another. You can argue they agree with a law for the better good and perhaps not strictly 'constructionalist'.</p><p></p><p>But constructionalist is often in the eye of the beholder. When ther supreme court rules the Florida recount was over due to Florida law setting a time limit, the democrats howled.</p><p></p><p>When the same court rules Florida law was constitutional on survivorship, and Congress couldnt interfer it was the Republicans who screamed activist judges!</p><p></p><p>Most often beleivers have to pick and chose the decisions to make a case. those who look at the entire record tend toward most decisions are split and err toward caution.</p><p></p><p>If you believe the court is activist then you see only those cases that go against your political beliefs.</p><p></p><p>While we refer to the politcal system as a republic, democratic, or representative governance.</p><p></p><p>But bottomline is the bottomline. We are a capitalist nation and money does talk. Spend more money and you get better stuff. be it a car, house or trial.</p><p></p><p>If you think that started around the end of our bloody civil war that kept the nation whole you are mistaken. Money was talking in the Colonies waaay before the summer of 1776. Many federalists wanted some sort of wealth test before a man could vote. Something like land ownership, or after the Civil War, a poll tax.</p><p></p><p>It wasnt until a century after that war before poll taxes were declared Unconstitutional. But once again only after a case was brought before the court.</p><p></p><p>The men of wealth were leery of the common rabble, they didnt want those who hadnt achieved the American dream to a certain level, the ablity to be too involved in decision making.</p><p></p><p>Anyway it would be nice to have more than a belief in the collapse of our political system.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MadDawg, post: 1182086, member: 11627"] Ridge- I have found Belief best for your religion. I never liked being told in the secular world you either believe or you dont. It would be nice if examples could be given as things like busing are not the court's idea but the state's idea. There is a great debate on if the Courts lean toward one philosophy or another. You can argue they agree with a law for the better good and perhaps not strictly 'constructionalist'. But constructionalist is often in the eye of the beholder. When ther supreme court rules the Florida recount was over due to Florida law setting a time limit, the democrats howled. When the same court rules Florida law was constitutional on survivorship, and Congress couldnt interfer it was the Republicans who screamed activist judges! Most often beleivers have to pick and chose the decisions to make a case. those who look at the entire record tend toward most decisions are split and err toward caution. If you believe the court is activist then you see only those cases that go against your political beliefs. While we refer to the politcal system as a republic, democratic, or representative governance. But bottomline is the bottomline. We are a capitalist nation and money does talk. Spend more money and you get better stuff. be it a car, house or trial. If you think that started around the end of our bloody civil war that kept the nation whole you are mistaken. Money was talking in the Colonies waaay before the summer of 1776. Many federalists wanted some sort of wealth test before a man could vote. Something like land ownership, or after the Civil War, a poll tax. It wasnt until a century after that war before poll taxes were declared Unconstitutional. But once again only after a case was brought before the court. The men of wealth were leery of the common rabble, they didnt want those who hadnt achieved the American dream to a certain level, the ablity to be too involved in decision making. Anyway it would be nice to have more than a belief in the collapse of our political system. [/QUOTE]
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