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Message: <blockquote data-quote="HoLeChit" data-source="post: 2766593" data-attributes="member: 35036">I am not a part of any force any more, I apologize if somehow I misled you in my post. By crap I am referring to some of the OP's bold quoted text. I don't see anything good coming from it. I see it like this.... In the practice of law enforcment and security the practice that I was taught was to meet force with equal or greater force, whatever was needed to resolve the situation. If you can fix a situation by talking someone down, do it. If you have to "encourage" someone to sit down cause they're a bit rowdy, alright. But if someone is going to keep you from getting home to the wife and kids at the end of your shift, rather than giving them a nice hug and trying to get back to your car, you put some firepower on your target. De-escalation techniques such as turning around and hiding/seeking cover just sound like asking to become a victim. Stereotypically they will embolden An aggressor. If police officers are being told/suggested to do this rather than confront the issue at hand, I feel it will do more harm than good. Likewise for "checking your ego and getting back in the car" when someone doesn't want to talk to you. What about going out on a burglary, and you find the CP getting beaten half to death by the burglar; and the burglar refuses to comply? Turn around and walk back to the car because he/she won't comply? Take cover and wait for the PR Lt. And your backup who's 10 minutes out show up, so that they can ensure you aren't doing something wrong and not using excessive force? Now these examples are rather extreme, and I understand that I have grossly exaggerated them, but it is to get my point of view across.</blockquote>

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