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At what point are you justified 2 use force?
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<blockquote data-quote="ricco" data-source="post: 3739191" data-attributes="member: 46005"><p>It's not about what we think or even know, it's about what we can prove. It can be very difficult to prove something that doesn't happen. In the article it said that the man broke the window and "stumble back". If you employ deadly force against person who is moving backward especially an unarmed person you will very likely be charged and very likely be convicted. Remember the Michael Drejka shooting, Drejka had a far more justifiable case for employing deadly force and he was convicted and sent to prison. This isn't as simple as some think it is. If there is video and you must always assume you are on video your self defense incident will be broken down by inches and seconds, if you watched the Rittenhouse trial you know this to be true. In the recent Curtis Reeves trial the prosecution talked about where Reeves non shooting hand was at the moment Reeves fired the shot and the defense talked about how the bullet passed through the victims hand in such a way that the victim had to have a clenched fist. During a killing trial, for however long it last's, maybe weeks, the jury will hear all about your panicked or irrational or muderous intentions. Remember the Derek Chauvin trial, the prosecution went all the way back to his early days trying to prove he was a longtime bully. Just because you believe you are under a life threatening attack doesn't mean the police will believe it, the Prosecutor will believe it, the jury will believe it or the Judge will believe it, you will have to prove it. A criminal conviction will destroy your life as totally and completely as any attack by a bad guy, be sure your actions are undeniably justified. A broken window and a person stumbling backward...............well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ricco, post: 3739191, member: 46005"] It's not about what we think or even know, it's about what we can prove. It can be very difficult to prove something that doesn't happen. In the article it said that the man broke the window and "stumble back". If you employ deadly force against person who is moving backward especially an unarmed person you will very likely be charged and very likely be convicted. Remember the Michael Drejka shooting, Drejka had a far more justifiable case for employing deadly force and he was convicted and sent to prison. This isn't as simple as some think it is. If there is video and you must always assume you are on video your self defense incident will be broken down by inches and seconds, if you watched the Rittenhouse trial you know this to be true. In the recent Curtis Reeves trial the prosecution talked about where Reeves non shooting hand was at the moment Reeves fired the shot and the defense talked about how the bullet passed through the victims hand in such a way that the victim had to have a clenched fist. During a killing trial, for however long it last's, maybe weeks, the jury will hear all about your panicked or irrational or muderous intentions. Remember the Derek Chauvin trial, the prosecution went all the way back to his early days trying to prove he was a longtime bully. Just because you believe you are under a life threatening attack doesn't mean the police will believe it, the Prosecutor will believe it, the jury will believe it or the Judge will believe it, you will have to prove it. A criminal conviction will destroy your life as totally and completely as any attack by a bad guy, be sure your actions are undeniably justified. A broken window and a person stumbling backward...............well. [/QUOTE]
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