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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dennishoddy" data-source="post: 4237895" data-attributes="member: 5412">They had tracking devices on his vehicle. They knew exactly where he was.How uninformed can one be?Do you think the ATF wandered up to his door at 6am without prior intelligence? Do you not think they had a FLIR device in hand that showed that person walking inside the home before coming to the door? Just a random walk up with a no-knock warrant at 6am?A search warrant can be served with nobody in the home. It's done all the time by LEO to obtain evidence without a tactical team. Security systems neutralized by technology that the criminals have as well. Another team shadowing the perp arrests them after a radio call in the office or grocery store.Your inability to recognize the facts that the government agents over-reached their authority is overwhelming and reflects on you.Reports are that he shot first and they returned fire. He is dead so there is only one side of the story to tell. Had the feds followed the protocol in the Constitution that protected those presumed innocent until proven guilty been followed, the other side of the story would still be alive.Geeze.......</blockquote>