ATF Seeks 'Massive' Database of Personal Info: 'Assets, Relatives, Associates & More

[RugersGR8]

The BATFE may not even need no stinkin' Form 4473, they will have the "Investigative System" and the internet.

http://cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-williams-jr/atf-seeks-massive-database-personal-info-assets-relatives-associates
ATF Seeks 'Massive' Database of Personal Info: 'Assets, Relatives, Associates and More'
April 6, 2013
By Gregory Gwyn-Williams, Jr.

 

[reddog1]

They already use that.

 

[Spata]

The irs does the same thing.

 

[LightningCrash]

three letter agencies do this

 

[Fyrtwuck]

The Feds know more about you than you do.

Birth Certificates
Social Security Cards
Draft registration
Military records
Driver Licenses
Tax returns
Property taxes
Credit reports
License tags
Death certificates.

and the list goes on, but you get the idea.

 

[Belthos]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Kot2oe1xpQ

Privacy, Internet usage, credit cards, electronic payments, banks, social media, cell phones, home phones.

Pick the one that cannot exist with the others.

You would be stunned to know what can be learned about you just because you carry a cell phone, much less a smart phone.
The system can tell where you are all the time, show your walking, driving and map it to google maps.
Show strong relationships to whether or not you have medical conditions, by cross referencing where you go.
Doctors office, dentist, where you sleep, where you work.
Identify who you spend time with by cross referencing cellular signals that tend to be around you.
Cheat on your husband or wife? Divorce lawyers subpoena this information and track you to the lovers home or the motel you use.
Track where you shop, determine if you obey speed laws and stop at stop signs.

You use facebook? You are cheerfully conducting electronic surveillance on yourself, friends, family.

Privacy is a delusion unless you want to pay cash, avoid using cell phones and forget about using the internet.

Most GM cars have on-star, its a glorified gps hooked up to a cell phone, The feds have had GM remote activate the car's microphone to listen in on suspected criminals.
Your cell phone can be remote activated and it will not come on and inform you that it is monitoring you.

Of course there isn't anyone here doing anything that would trigger the interest of Big Brother, but just in case Big Data is tracking you to sell you to advertisers, merchants, credit card companies and hey if the government wants information on you they have a price schedule and an easy web access portal.

 

[twoguns?]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Kot2oe1xpQ

Privacy, Internet usage, credit cards, electronic payments, banks, social media, cell phones, home phones.

Pick the one that cannot exist with the others.

You would be stunned to know what can be learned about you just because you carry a cell phone, much less a smart phone.
The system can tell where you are all the time, show your walking, driving and map it to google maps.
Show strong relationships to whether or not you have medical conditions, by cross referencing where you go.
Doctors office, dentist, where you sleep, where you work.
Identify who you spend time with by cross referencing cellular signals that tend to be around you.
Cheat on your husband or wife? Divorce lawyers subpoena this information and track you to the lovers home or the motel you use.
Track where you shop, determine if you obey speed laws and stop at stop signs.

You use facebook? You are cheerfully conducting electronic surveillance on yourself, friends, family.

Privacy is a delusion unless you want to pay cash, avoid using cell phones and forget about using the internet.

Most GM cars have on-star, its a glorified gps hooked up to a cell phone, The feds have had GM remote activate the car's microphone to listen in on suspected criminals.
Your cell phone can be remote activated and it will not come on and inform you that it is monitoring you.

Of course there isn't anyone here doing anything that would trigger the interest of Big Brother, but just in case Big Data is tracking you to sell you to advertisers, merchants, credit card companies and hey if the government wants information on you they have a price schedule and an easy web access portal.

blocked by addy

 

[Belthos]

It shows up on mine. I also posted the link in addition to placing the video in line.

If all else fails go to youtube and search for Google toilet. But nothing in my post leads to an advertisement, unless your list blocks youtube?

I changed my adblock plus filter to easylist from the default fanboy list, that default caused me too many problems.

 

[Glocktogo]

Posted from a federal agent on another forum:

"Perhaps just 30 seconds of research would reveal just exactly what it is that BATFE wants and not some new, super-duper privacy invasion BS. They are looking for a new case management system. All case management systems are database derived. You put data in, you get data out. All of the legacy Treasury agencies are all looking for, or are developing new case management systems. They reason for this is multi-fold. At one time there were many agencies under Treasury, that now are under different agencies; Customs, ATF, IRS, and USSS are just a few, now these agencies have been re-aligned under other agencies, or have been left orphaned since the creation of DHS. Long before the creation of DHS ant the separation of these agencies a replacement was being sought for their shared case management system/database, TECS, or the Treasury Enforcement Communication System, as TECS is a mainframe based system, and a Windows/GUI based replacement has been sought and in various versions of development since 1999. Now that the Treasury functions have been shot out to the wind, everyone needs something different and all are looking for a system of their own. The shame in this is going to be the loss in shared data. For privacy advocates this is a boon, as there are going to be a dozen individual case management/Databases that don't talk to each other, instead of one, all-powerful program."

My agency has it's own internal database for all reports, including investigations. It is an unerring piece of shite. You couldn't find your own ass with both hands in that pile of crap.

 

[dru]

somebody should tell the ATF about facebook.