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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mugsy" data-source="post: 2185629" data-attributes="member: 18914"><p>The Holder letter and the Kansas law/bill BOTH beg the question of "who gets to definitively say when a law is unconstitutional?"  The typical student learns that, ultimately, the final arbiter is the U.S. Supreme Court but even that is a "gentleman's agreement" of sorts and at times it hasn't been enough to carry the day.  Ultimately, there will be some kind of consensus whether arrived at through formal legal processes or via the simple weight of public opinion.  Let's all hope and pray that it never again comes to something more violent than that because, even after two World Wars, the US civil war is still the most destructive war this nation ever fought.</p></blockquote><p></p>