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<blockquote data-quote="Snattlerake" data-source="post: 4118418" data-attributes="member: 44288"><p>You have to have the app on your phone, an internet connection at the phone and the gate.</p><p></p><p>Your biggest problem is the distance from the house. Four hundred feet is 100 to 200 feet over the Wi-Fi connectivity distance. Trees and buildings can also disrupt the Wi-Fi signal.</p><p></p><p>Bluetooth can only work within a limited distance. Now they claim the new Bluetooth is 200 to 800 feet. In my experience, it is not even close to 200 ft. It is more like 50 ft maybe.</p><p></p><p>Most remote controls are done by several methods. Radio, which is the standard garage door opener, Wi-Fi, which requires you to have the internet at the gate, Direct wire, which requires of course a direct burial cable to the opener, radio mesh, which is a network of nested radio transmitter/receiver devices that relay signals to the last addressed device in the mesh. A combination of these can be used in difficult situations.</p><p></p><p>The Internet also has to be extended to the gate or direct bury CAT6 cabling to a router with Wi-Fi capability but why do that when you can just direct bury a cable? Wi-Fi extenders are getting more affordable now with the IoT generation of products coming out now. I will also tell you I have had a lot of trouble with Wifi. None of it was our fault. Mostly atmosphere, interference, or just plain (I decided not to work today). How many times have you been on a computer that just decides not to connect to your wifi while you were working? Frustrating?</p><p></p><p>OOPS! I made a boo boo. I said CAT6 would do it. It might but it is not recommended for any internet cabling to be run over 300 ft. due to signal loss. However, direct burial of a control cable that only provides a closure on a normally open input, (think of a momentary push switch) is your best option and is not limited in distance. This way you could have the wifi on the house or barn and as long as you can reach the wifi router/switchgear by cellphone app or computer.</p><p></p><p>Wifi unfortunately is again limited in range. You will need an extender if you go that route without the direct cable burial. You have two options. One is a directional antenna pointed directly at the receiver at the gate. or an omnidirectional extender that would kill two birds with better Wi-Fi coverage on the entire farm.</p><p></p><p>Here is a directional option.</p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Transmission-Wireless-Injector-CPE710/dp/B08D71HC9L/ref=asc_df_B08D71HC9L/?tag=&linkCode=df0&hvadid=439531724089&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5709962910981359893&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9026283&hvtargid=pla-973007825406&ref=&adgrpid=101224628559&th=1[/URL]</p><p></p><p>Here is an omnidirectional antenna that would give a rough area of 650 ft radius coverage from the antenna.</p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.amazon.com/WAVLINK-Extender-Weatherproof-Detachable-Antennas/dp/B09ZDQWFNG/ref=asc_df_B09ZDQWFNG/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=598359365939&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7290868367187101741&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9026283&hvtargid=pla-1681669116461&th=1[/URL]</p><p></p><p>I have watched a few videos and see their safety is a sort of strain gauge on the opener itself.</p><p>The system is not really an all in one package it is a modular system that adds features. I also think the solar cell is good for the absolute minimum number of cycles. The app looks interesting but it is third party and not made by Ghost Controls. Who are they going to point the finger at when it does not work correctly?</p><p></p><p>I went through this type of scenario with three different vendors and a camera. All three pointed fingers at the other guy until I eliminated the radio range by moving the transmitter to a point within 20 feet of the camera receiver and I moved the controller within 10 feet of the transmitter using direct wiring. I was essentially cooking the receiver. It was then the camera people had an epiphany and fixed the problem with a terminating resistor.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Snattlerake, post: 4118418, member: 44288"] You have to have the app on your phone, an internet connection at the phone and the gate. Your biggest problem is the distance from the house. Four hundred feet is 100 to 200 feet over the Wi-Fi connectivity distance. Trees and buildings can also disrupt the Wi-Fi signal. Bluetooth can only work within a limited distance. Now they claim the new Bluetooth is 200 to 800 feet. In my experience, it is not even close to 200 ft. It is more like 50 ft maybe. Most remote controls are done by several methods. Radio, which is the standard garage door opener, Wi-Fi, which requires you to have the internet at the gate, Direct wire, which requires of course a direct burial cable to the opener, radio mesh, which is a network of nested radio transmitter/receiver devices that relay signals to the last addressed device in the mesh. A combination of these can be used in difficult situations. The Internet also has to be extended to the gate or direct bury CAT6 cabling to a router with Wi-Fi capability but why do that when you can just direct bury a cable? Wi-Fi extenders are getting more affordable now with the IoT generation of products coming out now. I will also tell you I have had a lot of trouble with Wifi. None of it was our fault. Mostly atmosphere, interference, or just plain (I decided not to work today). How many times have you been on a computer that just decides not to connect to your wifi while you were working? Frustrating? OOPS! I made a boo boo. I said CAT6 would do it. It might but it is not recommended for any internet cabling to be run over 300 ft. due to signal loss. However, direct burial of a control cable that only provides a closure on a normally open input, (think of a momentary push switch) is your best option and is not limited in distance. This way you could have the wifi on the house or barn and as long as you can reach the wifi router/switchgear by cellphone app or computer. Wifi unfortunately is again limited in range. You will need an extender if you go that route without the direct cable burial. You have two options. One is a directional antenna pointed directly at the receiver at the gate. or an omnidirectional extender that would kill two birds with better Wi-Fi coverage on the entire farm. Here is a directional option. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Transmission-Wireless-Injector-CPE710/dp/B08D71HC9L/ref=asc_df_B08D71HC9L/?tag=&linkCode=df0&hvadid=439531724089&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5709962910981359893&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9026283&hvtargid=pla-973007825406&ref=&adgrpid=101224628559&th=1[/URL] Here is an omnidirectional antenna that would give a rough area of 650 ft radius coverage from the antenna. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.amazon.com/WAVLINK-Extender-Weatherproof-Detachable-Antennas/dp/B09ZDQWFNG/ref=asc_df_B09ZDQWFNG/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=598359365939&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7290868367187101741&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9026283&hvtargid=pla-1681669116461&th=1[/URL] I have watched a few videos and see their safety is a sort of strain gauge on the opener itself. The system is not really an all in one package it is a modular system that adds features. I also think the solar cell is good for the absolute minimum number of cycles. The app looks interesting but it is third party and not made by Ghost Controls. Who are they going to point the finger at when it does not work correctly? I went through this type of scenario with three different vendors and a camera. All three pointed fingers at the other guy until I eliminated the radio range by moving the transmitter to a point within 20 feet of the camera receiver and I moved the controller within 10 feet of the transmitter using direct wiring. I was essentially cooking the receiver. It was then the camera people had an epiphany and fixed the problem with a terminating resistor. [/QUOTE]
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