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<blockquote data-quote="Jcann" data-source="post: 3375520" data-attributes="member: 33119"><p>I don't understand why one would want to use a minimum caliber shooting a bullet a little over 100 grains in weight for elk hunting. These new 6mm offerings driven by PRS competitions are being designed to shoot the longer higher BC bullets with light recoil. In a hunting situation they are meant to be used for larger varmints, deer, and antelope, not for elk. Certainly bullet technology has changed over the years but that technology doesn't overcome mass.</p><p></p><p>We've all heard the argument with those who say something to the effect, "the 6.5x55 Swede has killed thousands of moose/Red Deer over the years in Europe." I don't doubt it one bit, but I bet those old timers knew the limitations of this round as well. It was what they had and they put it to good use in the right scenario. They weren't shooting 600 to 800 yards across a canyon with a 143 grain ELD-X. They were using a 160 grain round nose probably within 300 yards.</p><p></p><p>Anyone who takes a 6mm into the woods after elk has handicapped themselves. Why, on a possible limited type hunting situation, would a hunter do this? If an elk hunt is a possible one time hunt event, maybe a 6.5mm is an okay choice in a Creed but if it's a yearly type event there are much, much better options out there. One option is a switch barrel/bolt head type system on a long action. This way you can pick your poison for the hunt.</p><p></p><p>Long range hunting and PRS competitions has grown leaps and bounds over the years. What was once your standard chamberings has shifted to the 7 LRM, 300 PRC, 6.5 PRC, etc for long range hunting. PRS shooting has gone from the tried and true .308 to the 6.5 and now its moved on to the 6mm (6x47 Lapua, 6mm CM, 6m GT, 6mm BR, 6mm SLR, 6mm XC, 6mm ARC, etc). Sure, there are those of us who still shoot the older chamberings but, we aren't the cool kids. We're the fat, gray headed old farts that spent all our money putting our kids through college.</p><p></p><p>Lets not even begin to speak of new scope offerings, the cool kids will go into orgasmic lunacy climbing over one another to get one.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jcann, post: 3375520, member: 33119"] I don't understand why one would want to use a minimum caliber shooting a bullet a little over 100 grains in weight for elk hunting. These new 6mm offerings driven by PRS competitions are being designed to shoot the longer higher BC bullets with light recoil. In a hunting situation they are meant to be used for larger varmints, deer, and antelope, not for elk. Certainly bullet technology has changed over the years but that technology doesn't overcome mass. We've all heard the argument with those who say something to the effect, "the 6.5x55 Swede has killed thousands of moose/Red Deer over the years in Europe." I don't doubt it one bit, but I bet those old timers knew the limitations of this round as well. It was what they had and they put it to good use in the right scenario. They weren't shooting 600 to 800 yards across a canyon with a 143 grain ELD-X. They were using a 160 grain round nose probably within 300 yards. Anyone who takes a 6mm into the woods after elk has handicapped themselves. Why, on a possible limited type hunting situation, would a hunter do this? If an elk hunt is a possible one time hunt event, maybe a 6.5mm is an okay choice in a Creed but if it's a yearly type event there are much, much better options out there. One option is a switch barrel/bolt head type system on a long action. This way you can pick your poison for the hunt. Long range hunting and PRS competitions has grown leaps and bounds over the years. What was once your standard chamberings has shifted to the 7 LRM, 300 PRC, 6.5 PRC, etc for long range hunting. PRS shooting has gone from the tried and true .308 to the 6.5 and now its moved on to the 6mm (6x47 Lapua, 6mm CM, 6m GT, 6mm BR, 6mm SLR, 6mm XC, 6mm ARC, etc). Sure, there are those of us who still shoot the older chamberings but, we aren't the cool kids. We're the fat, gray headed old farts that spent all our money putting our kids through college. Lets not even begin to speak of new scope offerings, the cool kids will go into orgasmic lunacy climbing over one another to get one. [/QUOTE]
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