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<blockquote data-quote="JD8" data-source="post: 3237078" data-attributes="member: 24"><p>Notice you have a weak argument so you have to resort to a polarizing straw man argument? Essentially, all or nothing?</p><p></p><p>My position is that I actually stepped foot on campus for academic reasons, I actually took the classes you speak of. SO the reality lies between "they all are teaching one class" and "they all earn their salaries." Anyone that steps foot on campus notices that a vast minority will be instructing one course. In fact I never saw one and I was attending the College of arts and Sciences. In which we even had the Letters and Classics degrees in our college, something I guarantee you the MENSA know it alls of OSA would ultimately scoff at. Never saw one professor like you speak of. Not saying they don't exist in some fashion, it's just insane to believe they are even close to representing the majority. </p><p></p><p>My position is also that all walks of life should entertain what they want to learn. However, it's all upon them to fulfill their responsibilities from getting that education. I DO believe that a trade education infrastructure needs to become a priority but Oklahoma has some darn good programs as previously mentioned. I believe that the majority of the problems you seem to have a huge chip on your shoulder about apply elsewhere and you're trying to apply them here. The problems in education IMO, lie initially, within the school systems due to bloated administration. Problem is that I think you'll have a tough time getting people to vote to consolidate because too many populations have their identities wrapped up in their schools. I hope I'm wrong and I hope it happens but it would take some outside the box thinking. Now on the collegiate level, have you by any chance even browsed the colleges at OU? (since you seem to have a chip on your shoulder). College of Engineering? Business? Earth and Energy? International Business? My point is that these colleges by far and large employ degrees that will probably allow someone to find a good job, of course that's up to the individual. There ARE some colleges that entertain SOME degrees like the cliche Women's Studies, etc etc..... but someone would have to be insane to believe these are even close to being the majority here in Oklahoma. Naturally if you were to go to California or NY, or any true liberal arts college in the US, then you're going to see what you're speaking of. However, until you have some real world knowledge, don't apply that cliche here like it's the same situation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JD8, post: 3237078, member: 24"] Notice you have a weak argument so you have to resort to a polarizing straw man argument? Essentially, all or nothing? My position is that I actually stepped foot on campus for academic reasons, I actually took the classes you speak of. SO the reality lies between "they all are teaching one class" and "they all earn their salaries." Anyone that steps foot on campus notices that a vast minority will be instructing one course. In fact I never saw one and I was attending the College of arts and Sciences. In which we even had the Letters and Classics degrees in our college, something I guarantee you the MENSA know it alls of OSA would ultimately scoff at. Never saw one professor like you speak of. Not saying they don't exist in some fashion, it's just insane to believe they are even close to representing the majority. My position is also that all walks of life should entertain what they want to learn. However, it's all upon them to fulfill their responsibilities from getting that education. I DO believe that a trade education infrastructure needs to become a priority but Oklahoma has some darn good programs as previously mentioned. I believe that the majority of the problems you seem to have a huge chip on your shoulder about apply elsewhere and you're trying to apply them here. The problems in education IMO, lie initially, within the school systems due to bloated administration. Problem is that I think you'll have a tough time getting people to vote to consolidate because too many populations have their identities wrapped up in their schools. I hope I'm wrong and I hope it happens but it would take some outside the box thinking. Now on the collegiate level, have you by any chance even browsed the colleges at OU? (since you seem to have a chip on your shoulder). College of Engineering? Business? Earth and Energy? International Business? My point is that these colleges by far and large employ degrees that will probably allow someone to find a good job, of course that's up to the individual. There ARE some colleges that entertain SOME degrees like the cliche Women's Studies, etc etc..... but someone would have to be insane to believe these are even close to being the majority here in Oklahoma. Naturally if you were to go to California or NY, or any true liberal arts college in the US, then you're going to see what you're speaking of. However, until you have some real world knowledge, don't apply that cliche here like it's the same situation. [/QUOTE]
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