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Message: <blockquote data-quote="swampratt" data-source="post: 3055566" data-attributes="member: 15054">You ever shoot at a target (Not paper) and the debris comes back towards the shooter.Water bottle or tree or small critter . Pee in the toilet and it splashes back at you.You hit ribs and the ribs want to exit the hole this is what makes the hole larger.. not always the bullet expanding instantly.My 30-30 with 150gr or 170 gr soft point  was the worst performing gun/bullet I ever had.People praise the ****** 30-30. I kind of hate it. Mine is very accurate but always penciled through on broad side shot.Never a blood trail. But I do not need a blood trail if I hit a vital the animal will expire soon enough, finding it is easy.My 50 cal muzzleloader with 295gr power belt frags more than that bullet you showed.. never exited on a broad side shot..308 165 game king HPBT broad side shot no exit. lots of frag at 2800fps.Want exit and blood trail try the heavy A-Max. I quit using the 178 gr in my .308 because it would rip both shoulders off not anything to eat on those shoulders.Hit the neck with 178 or the 295gr in .50 cal and just about take the head smooth off.I like the bullet to fragment and care less if weight is retained as long as the animal expires quickly.One reason I do not like using the 30-30. Maybe I need 125gr bullets in it.</blockquote>