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<blockquote data-quote="TANSTAAFL" data-source="post: 3850090" data-attributes="member: 27098"><p>I would agree with you to a degree. Car quality has declined, also much more technology so their is much, much more that can go wrong, however some of the tech makes it easier to diagnose issues. As far as modern cars though there are many benefits over what was produced in the 50's through 1970's:</p><p></p><p>1) Many engines and transmissions can get over 100K miles, some even with good maintenance 200K miles for Modern engines and Transmissions</p><p>2) Much Better Gas Mileage</p><p>3) Fewer maintenance items such as points, distributer, condenser and spark plugs, less tuning needed</p><p>4) Oil burning was very common on 1950's and 1960's engines with few miles</p><p>5) Cars handle way better and are much faster. As a matter of fact a stock V6 camry is faster in the 1/4 mile than a stock Dual Quad 4 speed Positraction 409 (however the 409 is much classier). A Stock 2019 Mustang GT 5.0 with a 10 speed auto can do the 1/4 mile in under 12 seconds.</p><p></p><p>The downside to modern cars:</p><p></p><p>1) The engines are much more difficult to rebuild and way more expensive</p><p>2) Problem Diagnosis takes very special equipment in many cases.</p><p>3) Many computer and electrical systems to break do</p><p>4) Build quality has gone down, a car has become a conveyance and is not a symbol of independence, wealth or masculinity as much as they used to, also in many instances the workers take much less pride in building them. </p><p>5) Modern cars in general lack style, panache and emotional appeal.</p><p></p><p>My point? Better engineering in many cases, poorer build quality and execution.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TANSTAAFL, post: 3850090, member: 27098"] I would agree with you to a degree. Car quality has declined, also much more technology so their is much, much more that can go wrong, however some of the tech makes it easier to diagnose issues. As far as modern cars though there are many benefits over what was produced in the 50's through 1970's: 1) Many engines and transmissions can get over 100K miles, some even with good maintenance 200K miles for Modern engines and Transmissions 2) Much Better Gas Mileage 3) Fewer maintenance items such as points, distributer, condenser and spark plugs, less tuning needed 4) Oil burning was very common on 1950's and 1960's engines with few miles 5) Cars handle way better and are much faster. As a matter of fact a stock V6 camry is faster in the 1/4 mile than a stock Dual Quad 4 speed Positraction 409 (however the 409 is much classier). A Stock 2019 Mustang GT 5.0 with a 10 speed auto can do the 1/4 mile in under 12 seconds. The downside to modern cars: 1) The engines are much more difficult to rebuild and way more expensive 2) Problem Diagnosis takes very special equipment in many cases. 3) Many computer and electrical systems to break do 4) Build quality has gone down, a car has become a conveyance and is not a symbol of independence, wealth or masculinity as much as they used to, also in many instances the workers take much less pride in building them. 5) Modern cars in general lack style, panache and emotional appeal. My point? Better engineering in many cases, poorer build quality and execution. [/QUOTE]
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