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<blockquote data-quote="KOPBET" data-source="post: 4388471" data-attributes="member: 4153"><p>Not medical advice. just one person's opinion coming from a two-time stroke victim and former diabetic with a starting 12.2 A1c and CKD stage 2. I now eat mostly meats with a very small amount of dairy (heavy cream). No fruit (except occasional avocado) or vegs. Lost 55lbs and lowest recent A1c was 4.9. Latest was 5.6 Ok, sometimes I cheat, especially this time of year. Not saying it's for everyone, but it works for me. Diabetes killed my older brother, and I am determined not to follow his lead.</p><p></p><p>Unless you are a blind (some also say ignorant) follower of the AHA or ADA (recommends the SAD diet and not your friends):</p><p></p><p>Sugar, high fructose anything (sodas) is bad</p><p>Carbs are not a health food and not needed at all</p><p>Fiber is not a requirement for health (and could cause gut issues is some)</p><p>Fruit is mostly sugar (fructose) and is especially bad for metabolically unhealthy people (diabetics, etc.) Berries, avocados, currants are least bad.</p><p>Many veggies are high in starch (turns to sugar). Cruciferous vegs are best and lowest in carbs, but again, vegs are not a requirement in any way so leave the greens in the ground for the animals</p><p>So are starchy beans, legumes, potatoes, rice (also carbs)</p><p>Breads or breaded foods are high in carbs, avoid or eliminate</p><p>Seed or "vegetable" oils will kill you, don't use</p><p>Full fat dairy is OK in limited amounts, inflammatory for some people though. Milk is loaded in lactose (sugar)</p><p>Low fat or fat free is the devil incarnate (fat is usually replaced with some form of sugar for taste)</p><p>Trans fats are bad of course, saturated fats are not</p><p>Bacon, bacon, bacon!!</p><p>Eggs with the yolk (some can't handle egg whites)</p><p>Get your food as a single ingredient item if possible. Avoid "foods" with things on the label you can't pronounce</p><p>Liver (any) is a super food if you like it</p><p>Use butter or ghee (clarified butter). No margarine science projects</p><p>Some nuts in moderation sprouted, soaked or roasted. (Carbs) Leave the peanuts for the elephants</p><p>And of course, meats. Doesn't have to be the expensive stuff. Buy what you can afford. Ruminant meat is best, but any kind will do including pork, chicken, fish, shellfish, lamb, etc. Unless your name is Klaus, no bugs</p><p>If you must have alcohol, try to stick with distilled (without the sugary mixers) but keep it limited and infrequent</p><p></p><p>True carnivore dieters would consume only animal products and some full fat dairy (butter, ghee)</p><p>Not a complete list but what I could think of offhand.</p><p></p><p>If you are metabolically healthy, not overweight and not prediabetic, do what you will and good luck to you. If not, you CAN reverse course and not die an unnecessarily premature death due to a poor diet. And oh BTW, doctors and dieticians won't always give you good advice (they can't). You have to be your own advocate for good or better health.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KOPBET, post: 4388471, member: 4153"] Not medical advice. just one person's opinion coming from a two-time stroke victim and former diabetic with a starting 12.2 A1c and CKD stage 2. I now eat mostly meats with a very small amount of dairy (heavy cream). No fruit (except occasional avocado) or vegs. Lost 55lbs and lowest recent A1c was 4.9. Latest was 5.6 Ok, sometimes I cheat, especially this time of year. Not saying it's for everyone, but it works for me. Diabetes killed my older brother, and I am determined not to follow his lead. Unless you are a blind (some also say ignorant) follower of the AHA or ADA (recommends the SAD diet and not your friends): Sugar, high fructose anything (sodas) is bad Carbs are not a health food and not needed at all Fiber is not a requirement for health (and could cause gut issues is some) Fruit is mostly sugar (fructose) and is especially bad for metabolically unhealthy people (diabetics, etc.) Berries, avocados, currants are least bad. Many veggies are high in starch (turns to sugar). Cruciferous vegs are best and lowest in carbs, but again, vegs are not a requirement in any way so leave the greens in the ground for the animals So are starchy beans, legumes, potatoes, rice (also carbs) Breads or breaded foods are high in carbs, avoid or eliminate Seed or "vegetable" oils will kill you, don't use Full fat dairy is OK in limited amounts, inflammatory for some people though. Milk is loaded in lactose (sugar) Low fat or fat free is the devil incarnate (fat is usually replaced with some form of sugar for taste) Trans fats are bad of course, saturated fats are not Bacon, bacon, bacon!! Eggs with the yolk (some can't handle egg whites) Get your food as a single ingredient item if possible. Avoid "foods" with things on the label you can't pronounce Liver (any) is a super food if you like it Use butter or ghee (clarified butter). No margarine science projects Some nuts in moderation sprouted, soaked or roasted. (Carbs) Leave the peanuts for the elephants And of course, meats. Doesn't have to be the expensive stuff. Buy what you can afford. Ruminant meat is best, but any kind will do including pork, chicken, fish, shellfish, lamb, etc. Unless your name is Klaus, no bugs If you must have alcohol, try to stick with distilled (without the sugary mixers) but keep it limited and infrequent True carnivore dieters would consume only animal products and some full fat dairy (butter, ghee) Not a complete list but what I could think of offhand. If you are metabolically healthy, not overweight and not prediabetic, do what you will and good luck to you. If not, you CAN reverse course and not die an unnecessarily premature death due to a poor diet. And oh BTW, doctors and dieticians won't always give you good advice (they can't). You have to be your own advocate for good or better health. [/QUOTE]
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