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Message: <blockquote data-quote="HMFIC" data-source="post: 1633734" data-attributes="member: 7539">True on the Whelen but keep in mind that Whelen cartridges are not a long tapered case and shoulder.  While small, they are steep and pronounced so not really comparative to the reasons H&H decided to use the belted design.Headspacing off the mouth is of course possible but H&H was trying to find a solution to a taper designed case for use in magazine fed rifles.  Besides, if the issue was push extraction, then that means it would have only applied to double rifles and hence they would have just made it rimmed, right?  Do double rifles even use the belt to extract or do they still use the extraction groove?  Hatchers Notebook even says of belted designs that "The rim is not high enough to give a good place for the extractor to take hold, so there is an extractor groove."Waht is logical to me is that any ease of extraction is just a byproduct of the primary reasons which had everything to do with giving the cartridges a postive method by which to headspace and hold a large tapered cartridge in place without being wedged further forward.</blockquote>