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CDC admits death toll is inflated! Of 161,392 deaths ONLY 6% / 9,683 ARE DIRECTLY CAUSED BY COVID.
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<blockquote data-quote="_CY_" data-source="post: 3545060" data-attributes="member: 7629"><p><span style="font-size: 15px">folks this is a particularly important paper! it's been peer reviewed in Nature, one of the most respected sources in the world. </span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">besides natural immunity conveyed by the same family of corona viruses including common cold. specifically immunity conveyed by SARS COV 1 and 2 antibodies last 2-3 years. T cells from SARS COV 1 last 11 years. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">this means folks that already had covid will retain natural immunity for about 11 years and will NOT need any vaccines. </span></p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2550-z#article-info" target="_blank">Published: 15 July 2020</a></p><p><strong>SARS-CoV-2-specific T cell immunity in cases of COVID-19 and SARS, and uninfected controls</strong></p><p><strong><a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2550-z" target="_blank">https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2550-z</a></strong></p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2550-z.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2550-z.pdf</a></p><p></p><p>SARS-CoV-2 belongs to the <em>Coronaviridae</em>, a family of large RNA viruses that infect many animal species. Six other coronaviruses are known to infect humans. Four of them are endemically transmitted<a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2550-z#ref-CR8" target="_blank">8</a> and cause the common cold (OC43, HKU1, 229E and NL63), while SARS-CoV and Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV) have caused epidemics of severe pneumonia<a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2550-z#ref-CR9" target="_blank">9</a>. All of these coronaviruses trigger antibody and T cell responses in infected patients: however, antibody levels appear to wane faster than T cells. SARS-CoV-specific antibodies dropped below the limit of detection within 2 to 3 years<a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2550-z#ref-CR10" target="_blank">10</a>, whereas SARS-CoV-specific memory T cells have been detected even 11 years after SARS<a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2550-z#ref-CR11" target="_blank">11</a>. As the sequences of selected structural and non-structural proteins are highly conserved among different coronaviruses (for example, NSP7 and NSP13 are 100% and 99% identical, respectively, between SARS-CoV-2, SARS-CoV and the bat-associated bat-SL-CoVZXC21<a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2550-z#ref-CR12" target="_blank">12</a>), we investigated whether cross-reactive SARS-CoV-2-specific T cells are present in individuals who resolved SARS-CoV, and compared the responses with those present in individuals who recovered from SARS-CoV-2 infection. We also studied these T cells in individuals with no history of SARS or COVID-19 or of contact with patients with SARS-CoV-2. Collectively these individuals are hereafter referred to as individuals who were not exposed to SARS-CoV and SARS-CoV-2 (unexposed donors).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="_CY_, post: 3545060, member: 7629"] [SIZE=4]folks this is a particularly important paper! it's been peer reviewed in Nature, one of the most respected sources in the world. [/SIZE] [SIZE=4]besides natural immunity conveyed by the same family of corona viruses including common cold. specifically immunity conveyed by SARS COV 1 and 2 antibodies last 2-3 years. T cells from SARS COV 1 last 11 years. this means folks that already had covid will retain natural immunity for about 11 years and will NOT need any vaccines. [/SIZE] [URL='https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2550-z#article-info']Published: 15 July 2020[/URL] [B]SARS-CoV-2-specific T cell immunity in cases of COVID-19 and SARS, and uninfected controls [URL]https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2550-z[/URL][/B] [URL]https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2550-z.pdf[/URL] SARS-CoV-2 belongs to the [I]Coronaviridae[/I], a family of large RNA viruses that infect many animal species. Six other coronaviruses are known to infect humans. Four of them are endemically transmitted[URL='https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2550-z#ref-CR8']8[/URL] and cause the common cold (OC43, HKU1, 229E and NL63), while SARS-CoV and Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV) have caused epidemics of severe pneumonia[URL='https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2550-z#ref-CR9']9[/URL]. All of these coronaviruses trigger antibody and T cell responses in infected patients: however, antibody levels appear to wane faster than T cells. SARS-CoV-specific antibodies dropped below the limit of detection within 2 to 3 years[URL='https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2550-z#ref-CR10']10[/URL], whereas SARS-CoV-specific memory T cells have been detected even 11 years after SARS[URL='https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2550-z#ref-CR11']11[/URL]. As the sequences of selected structural and non-structural proteins are highly conserved among different coronaviruses (for example, NSP7 and NSP13 are 100% and 99% identical, respectively, between SARS-CoV-2, SARS-CoV and the bat-associated bat-SL-CoVZXC21[URL='https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2550-z#ref-CR12']12[/URL]), we investigated whether cross-reactive SARS-CoV-2-specific T cells are present in individuals who resolved SARS-CoV, and compared the responses with those present in individuals who recovered from SARS-CoV-2 infection. We also studied these T cells in individuals with no history of SARS or COVID-19 or of contact with patients with SARS-CoV-2. Collectively these individuals are hereafter referred to as individuals who were not exposed to SARS-CoV and SARS-CoV-2 (unexposed donors). [/QUOTE]
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