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<blockquote data-quote="onearmedman" data-source="post: 1304528" data-attributes="member: 454"><p>[ATTACH=full]79701[/ATTACH]</p><p>This shot appeared in a 2004 issue of "4-wheel & Off-Road" magazine's "Reader's Rides". The caption read "Me and my guys after a hard day riding the taliban."</p><p><a href="http://www.brian894x4.com/MilitaryTacoma.html" target="_blank">http://www.brian894x4.com/MilitaryTacoma.html</a></p><p>Some of these photes were sent to me via email by John H. Some were found at <a href="http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/289957/6" target="_blank">www.cardomain.com/memberpage/289957/6</a></p><p>When I first saw these pictures as emailed to me by John H. and later Randy G., I assumed these were simply local</p><p>Afghanistan Toyota Hilux trucks being used by our American Special Forces in country. But when I took a closer look</p><p>and saw that they were in fact "real" Toyota Tacomas, built in Fremont, California, it completely blew me away. </p><p></p><p>What makes this so significant is that there are major differences between the Tacoma which is exclusively sold in the</p><p>United States and Canada and nowhere else and the Hilux trucks which are sold everywhere else in the world, including</p><p>the ones used by the Taliban and the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan The Tacoma uses an entirely different suspension</p><p>and frame and some (including myself) have questioned it's strength compared to the older Toyota trucks and the current</p><p>Hilux. From these photos we can see that the Tacoma is being used under perhaps the harshest conditions imaginable</p><p>for a truck and with very heavy loads, and they are apparently being used in combat! There is no greater test for a 4x4</p><p>than how it performs in both desert and mountainous conditions in actual combat. While this is the expected norm for</p><p>any other Toyota it is very impressive to see that even the Tacoma can live up to the Toyota name. And it's nice to see</p><p>that our troops believe the Tacoma is tough enough to put their own lives on the line with it. No doubt, the Tacomas are</p><p>holding up despite some questionable design features of the frame and front end. </p><p></p><p>So, the obvious question is, why ship brand new Tacomas all the way from the United States, when Middle East, Europe</p><p>and Asia is full of Hilux trucks, which include a heavier duty frame, suspension and diesel engines. The answer is that</p><p>was simply easier for the Special Forces to buy them from local U.S. dealers, outfit them as they needed and ship them</p><p>over. The reason why the 4 door Tacoma was chosen as the vehicle, is because Toyotas are very popular in Afghanistan</p><p>and they would not stand out as much as the Humvees. In addition, the gas V-6 engines are much quieter than the diesel</p><p>engines of the Humvees and other military transport vehicles and better suited to daytime and nighttime covert</p><p>operations. Finally, the Tacoma is a durable and reliable 4x4.</p><p></p><p>From Mr. Slim, via email: A lot of the trucks came from Fort Campbell. Some of the mods Including all interior and</p><p>exterior lights and door buzzers disconnected along with the radios. Roll cage and mount for an M60 machine gun, WARN</p><p>winch, cheap brush guard, and 2 antenna mounts. The 3.4 V-6 engines had no mods. that I know of. One of the coolest</p><p>things is that the front lights were changed to infrared for night vision.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="onearmedman, post: 1304528, member: 454"] [attach=full]79701[/attach] This shot appeared in a 2004 issue of "4-wheel & Off-Road" magazine's "Reader's Rides". The caption read "Me and my guys after a hard day riding the taliban." [url]http://www.brian894x4.com/MilitaryTacoma.html[/url] Some of these photes were sent to me via email by John H. Some were found at [url]www.cardomain.com/memberpage/289957/6[/url] When I first saw these pictures as emailed to me by John H. and later Randy G., I assumed these were simply local Afghanistan Toyota Hilux trucks being used by our American Special Forces in country. But when I took a closer look and saw that they were in fact "real" Toyota Tacomas, built in Fremont, California, it completely blew me away. What makes this so significant is that there are major differences between the Tacoma which is exclusively sold in the United States and Canada and nowhere else and the Hilux trucks which are sold everywhere else in the world, including the ones used by the Taliban and the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan The Tacoma uses an entirely different suspension and frame and some (including myself) have questioned it's strength compared to the older Toyota trucks and the current Hilux. From these photos we can see that the Tacoma is being used under perhaps the harshest conditions imaginable for a truck and with very heavy loads, and they are apparently being used in combat! There is no greater test for a 4x4 than how it performs in both desert and mountainous conditions in actual combat. While this is the expected norm for any other Toyota it is very impressive to see that even the Tacoma can live up to the Toyota name. And it's nice to see that our troops believe the Tacoma is tough enough to put their own lives on the line with it. No doubt, the Tacomas are holding up despite some questionable design features of the frame and front end. So, the obvious question is, why ship brand new Tacomas all the way from the United States, when Middle East, Europe and Asia is full of Hilux trucks, which include a heavier duty frame, suspension and diesel engines. The answer is that was simply easier for the Special Forces to buy them from local U.S. dealers, outfit them as they needed and ship them over. The reason why the 4 door Tacoma was chosen as the vehicle, is because Toyotas are very popular in Afghanistan and they would not stand out as much as the Humvees. In addition, the gas V-6 engines are much quieter than the diesel engines of the Humvees and other military transport vehicles and better suited to daytime and nighttime covert operations. Finally, the Tacoma is a durable and reliable 4x4. From Mr. Slim, via email: A lot of the trucks came from Fort Campbell. Some of the mods Including all interior and exterior lights and door buzzers disconnected along with the radios. Roll cage and mount for an M60 machine gun, WARN winch, cheap brush guard, and 2 antenna mounts. The 3.4 V-6 engines had no mods. that I know of. One of the coolest things is that the front lights were changed to infrared for night vision. [/QUOTE]
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