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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TerryMiller" data-source="post: 1305453" data-attributes="member: 7900">While this thread was not started with the heavy pullers in mind, and although I had to throw in my F450, are the foreign jobs ever going to get into the heavier market?  It looks like these articles concerning the diesels for the foreigns are primarily talking about the 1/2 ton trucks, with one small reference to a "HD 1/2 ton.  The last article seemed to hint of larger trucks, but still leaves one with the idea that they won't.Until they get into the 350/3500 series and up, they would never be a consideration for me because of the heavy fifth wheel that I tow.  I also agree with Bruno2 about the trucks for the livestock shows.  We have a friend who is heavy into horses, raising and training race horses (both thouroughbred and quarter horses) as well as riding competitively in Dressage and Hunter/Jumper classes.  She told us much the same as Bruno said as to the who made the majority of the trucks for hauling horses.  And, if I remember right, that was after the Duramax.One of the biggest things I remember for the Ford F series trucks is that they have been the top seller in the U.S. for over 30 years.  While not a comparison with most "consumer" trucks, the 2008 F450 that I have is rated heavier than both GM and Dodge in the same categories.  In fact, you have to get into the "commercial" categories for a GM to equal the F450.</blockquote>